Lennox Lewis v Muhammad Ali

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  1. C. M. Clay II

    C. M. Clay II Manassah's finest! Full Member

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    No, to beat Ali you have to be relentless and take the fight to him. If you wait on him, he's gonna pick you apart. Lewis is too slow. Ali would pick him apart on the way to a comfortable UD.:good
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    When did Ali ever face a fighter who waited on him that had the talent and size of Lennox Lewis? Whilst i am inclined to go for Ali in this one stating "If you wait on him, he's gonna pick you apart." is a terrible oversimplification IMO. Comparing Lewis to some of the mugs who waited for Ali is like comparing a crack in the bedroom wall to the grand canyon. What you are overlooking is that Ali preferred his opponent to come after him, and i really can't see Lewis with all that reach running round chasing Ali all fight.
     
  3. cross_trainer

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    This is an interesting and rather creative use of psychological research for boxing history, which should have been better explored at the time this thread was started.
     
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  5. ThatOne

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    Lennox is one of my favorite boxers but Ali is my favorite. He has two inches and thirty pounds on a prime Ali. That's not insurmountable.
     
  6. ThatOne

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    Larry Holmes said before you roll a guy you have to get him drunk first. That applies here. I can't believe posters on a boxing board are comparing Lewis to Norton. It's like comparing Elvis to Prince. While all are great or near great at their craft they are nothing alike. Kenny was a come forward pressure fighter with an awkward style. Lennox was a safety first boxer.
     
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  7. Barrf

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    While true, Lewis is a unique combo of size, reach, skill, ring IQ/generalship, and power. There seems to be a tendency to acknowledge his other traits while forgetting that he's got top tier power on top of all that.

    I don't think it would save him against pre-exile Ali, who I think would just be too fast, but post-exile? I give Lewis even odds there.
     
  8. ThatOne

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    Ali's kryptonite like all out boxers is pressure fighters. That's not Lennox.
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    Was Lennox's kryptonite out boxers? Please give an example if so.
     
  10. Barrf

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    How often did Ali have a big reach disadvantage? Lewis has a 6in reach advantage. Seems dangerous to be trying some of Ali's defensive moves with that much of a reach disadvantage, especially against a guy who can really bang.
     
  11. ThatOne

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    Ali is the outboxer whose kryptonite was pressure fighters. Lennox isn't a pressure fighter. And to the poster who said Jimmy Ellis knocked him down twice in practice, errrrr, sparring. They actually fought and Ali dominated him, shutting him out on one card, before stopping him in the twelfth. That's one of my favorite fights. Dundee was in Ellis's corner. Harry Wiley, the trainer of Sugar Ray Robinson was in Ali's. Ali did some beautiful shoulder rolls in that fight. I wish both Wiley and Dundee trained him.
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    Ali also isn't kryptonite to Lewis, style wise. This much is obvious.
     
  13. ThatOne

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    Respectfully I never implied he was. And I would never denigrate Lennox as a fighter. I rarely denigrate any fighter.
     
  14. ThatOne

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    Senya, if I didn't know anything about boxing and read your posts I would think Ali was a fraud. Another poster said you believe Roy Jones Junior would beat Ali. For that statement to be true you would have to believe that a blown up super middleweight could beat every heavyweight fighter to have ever boxed other than the greatest heavyweight of all time.
     
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  15. FastLeft

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    Ali 1967 model
    destroy
    Lennox

    Lewis=good champion boxer & strong heavyweight
    but he way far too slow. like Liston