Lennox Lewis v Rocky Marciano

His body fat was very low, but at the end of the day he didn't have to make weight. If a fully hydrated Marciano was 180-185 then he's just not that big of a dude.

 

For god's sake, why do the clowns here dont understand that Marciano would be a light heavy today. Wake up people.


He would be given hell by Kovalev.

And some think that he would beat Lewis. Wow. Fantasy land here we go !!!

He will not land anything on Lennox. He will be pummeled on the outside. Even if he gets on the inside, he will be thrown aroud like a little ragdoll.


I have nothing against Marciano by the way.

 

what like Tomasz Adamek?

Kovalev is a very good fighter, no matter how heavy he is on fight night you must understand by yesteryear standards most boxers are in the wrong weight class now. That does not make Kovalev a 1950 heavyweight it just means he trains and prepares his body an entirely different way to fighters from vintage Times.

nobody on this thread has actually said that. The most anyone has said is Rocky was unique enough to give Lewis a lot of trouble on one of his very many dud nights. Lewis was not a "stand out great" during his prime, his record finally proved he must have been by the tail end of his career once he was already past his prime. It was always open to dispute before that.

lesser fighters landed a lot of punches on Lewis, it's just silly to say that. If Marvin Hagler fought Carlos Deleon he would deservedly be the underdog (just like Marcuano versus Lewis) but Hagler would be competitive.

perhaps you need to know more about him though?

 

In your revisionist dreams. In the modern era he might get sparring partner work, so the real fighters could prepare for a stumpy little guy, in case one got thrown into the mix.:rofl :yep

 

Why do you insist on making yourself look a moron?

Scores for Mavrovic

Tom Kaczmarek 119-109, Franco Ciminale 117-111, Bob Logist 117-112

Butler

Win TKO - 5

Jackson

Scores at the time of Win TKO - 8

: Bob Logist 70-63, John Stewart 70-62, John Keane 70-64

Akinwande

Scores at the time Henry was thrown out for persistent holding in the 5th.

Terry Smith 40-35, Larry O'Connell 40-35, Dalby Shirley 38-37


Briggs

Down 3 times before TKO - 5 stoppage

Mason

Win TKO - 7

Don't bother giving your opinions on those scores or results, because if I want to look at pig sh it I'll go to a pig farm.

I honestly didn't think you could get much more stupid than your frankly idiotic claim that Tua, Norris, and Marciano were built the same, but fair play you have surpassed your idiot self with this one.:rofl:rofl

 

I think the moron is the one who converts a difficult dud performance around to what the judges score lines were. everyone knows a champ can win a shut out from the judges against a weak challenger and still look poor enough to be exposed by a better fighter on that performance.

Larry Holmes was 109-100 against Smith and looked poor doing it that night. Ali vs Young, sane kind of thing. It means nothing. A big nothing.

Sometimes you have to watch these fights for yourself rather than check boxrec. Sometimes we must trust what you are seeing and of course it also helps if you can understand what is going on when watching from the armchair..

 

Encourage him why don't you. It amuses me.

 

Go away you fool. I was reminding the idiot ( you ) of the gulf in class by posting the scores of fights that I saw.

Unlike you I don't try to rewrite facts. Lewis never looked like losing in any of the fights listed above. The only fight you did mention that might have gone either way was the Mercer fight, in what most people believe was a " good fight ".

Feed Lewis the kind of garbage Marciano fed on ( or the ATG's that were nothing like their primes ) he would easily destroy them, and it would mean nothing.

As I said I didn't think you could surpass your own stupidity, but you certainly are, increasingly with every post.

 

If you saw those fights why post the scores? Those fights were incredibly tedious lumbering efforts that support the argument that any great fighter would give Lewis trouble on those many nights. If you saw them you would have avoided defending them. You did not know that so you posted the score line by way of saying "Lewis did not struggle, he was well ahead". Well yes he was ahead. I knew that because I saw those fights. That was not the point.

Why are you so afraid to entertain the notion that perhaps the third best dominant heavyweight of the last century could give Lennox Lewis a pretty tough fight? After all Lewis never got off the floor to win a fight. Lewis must be the only top 10 ATG whom in his prime it was open for debate who even was the dominant heavyweight at that time. As well as this Two upsets prove Lewis (in his prime) was not 100% reliable.

For such a great fighter wasnt Lewis just enough "accident prone" to give even tiny Rocky (and other ATG champs) a glimmer of a chance of being competative?

 

That it isn't as much of a mismatch as you think it is?

That maybe some posters with a well-known anti-Marciano bias try to make the argument that Levi figgin Billups > Marciano?

As Choklab says, just watch the fights.

Lewis wasn't this all-destroying giant that krapped lightning. Some of his wins looked pretty ordinary to me. Not to mention that, yes, there have been questions asked about his chin before. If he came in and put in one of his apathetic, sucky nights against Marciano, who was a pretty consistent performer if nothing else, yes, I could see Lewis lose. OMG ... shock and horror. :shock:

I like how in this thread folks make such a huge deal about Rocky's admittedly small size, while in two other threads going on right now, everybody completely ignores size disparity and has both Marciano and Dempsey mow down poor ol' Carnera, an even bigger fighter than Lewis, with impunity.

Suddenly size means nothing. How about some consistency, chaps?

Again: Lewis is favoured over Marciano. Nobody's debating that.

But to write him off completely ... atsch

 

I agree in that Marciano is horribly handicapped here. We have a guy who trained many years ago the old fashioned way before strength coaches were even a twinkle in the eye of Charles atlas against a huge tall Olympian with every conceivable physical and modern advantage. Of course Lewis is the favorite.

But it is far too fanciful to predict a mismatch if a mismatch as such is a non competative blowout because we have two great fighters in their prime. It's not like one fighter will be empowered by the fear factor. There's two fighters landing. Two winners in their prime. Both will be as ignorant of losing as the other.

 

At all time great level, You can't predict a blow out.