Lennox Lewis v Rocky Marciano

That is reasonable in so far as it cannot be ruled distinctly "impossible".

However, I think in light of the fact Lewis enormous size difference could on occasion hinder his own performance in that he was not fully himself without full control of the pace, was never regarded 100% reliable within his own prime, was accident prone and struggled with lesser (yet albeit larger) opposition to Marciano there is some scope for Rocky to be a bit difficult for him.

With every respect to Lewis and his astonishing physical advantages over Rocky the little guy could be awkward enough to be more competative than expected in a losing effort.

Overmatched little Justin Fortune with no pedigree at all went four rounds. Couldn't Rocky at the absolutely very least last twice as long?

 

The danger of broadly grouping all come forward fighters as "swarmers" has become quite popular but prevents exceptions for individual cases. There is a multitude of styles within that category it's not black and white that all fighters from one broad group have automatic disadvantages against another broad grouping. Much is open to interpretation, there are unique characteristics within individuals. Everyone does things slightly different. I dislike the use of "swarmers" if I am honest even if it has become acceptable. Your right though that text book cases tend to have predictable results. It is deciding what is text book among exceptions. Exceptional fighters can be exceptions to the rule. I think it could be difficult to predict.

 

How come there have not been that many tall fighters in history ?And why has there not been a 7 foot dominent champ?

 

And that's why I too pick Lewis over all. I just think it will be difficult and awkward for him.

 

We are talking about a big segment of time and Waldimir and Lewis are the first boxers that tall to dominate.

 

The heavier the rest of the division got the easier it was for the tallest heavyweights.

Earlier with smaller gloves, older training techniques and longer rounds more things suited smaller heavyweights.

 

I think this is just a natural progression of both the sport and the human population. Fighters in the 70's were significantly bigger than fighters in the 50's. Foreman, Ali, Holmes, even Liston, were all big guys, with Foreman, Ali, and Holmes being pretty close to superheavies. (ie 6'4" with skills 220+)

I'm not sure of the definition of a superheavy but other than it perhaps starting at 230lb+ these guys fit the mold.

 

Even if one wanted to get nit-picky and not include them on weight, they've got the frame and dimensions to compete and fit in just fine. They just wouldn't have the size advantages they typically enjoyed.

The step up from someone Frazier's size to today, would be too much IMO. I see Frazier-Ali I as boxing's legend of the John Henry vs the steam drill. Joe won the battle against the prototypical heavyweight machine of a division that was beginning to evolve beyond him. This was at great personal cost as the rest of his career was never the same, but he beat the machine that was Ali nonetheless.

Given what his fights against full-sized heavyweights took out of him before (Most of his fights were against classically-sized heavies), I believe it's asking too much to ask him to make a full-time go of campaigning against people that big or bigger every time out for 37 fights.

 

I'm not so sure on the human population thing, I think old traditional training methods just made fighters a lot lighter. Now it's went the other way we are seeing that the most amount of artificial weight best suits the tallest and longest among them.

Max Baer was the product of his training. Can you imagine him now?

 

lol...yea put those small 5 ounce gloves on Lewis,he would lay waste to all your past champs and in the same night.:dead

The rest of your post is nonsense..old techniques?Like what not knowing how to properly throw a jab and keeping your hands waist level? Ther old timeers looked like more bar brawlers just watch Baer and Gallento,even Graziano I can list many..this is how they fought mostly.Guys who weigh 230 plus are not going to fight like a 185 pounder,its common sense.

 

Joe Louis? Gene Tunney? Sugar Ray Robinson? Willie Pep? Ezzard Charles? Walcott? Tony zale? Freddie Steele?

You misunderstood anyway, I was not talking of boxing techniques at all, I was talking of how Training the old way took a lot more weight off. So much so that a fighters optimum weight would be different under those methods for any fighter. Replicate the same diet, training and on the day weigh in and every fighter today would look different.