Lennox Lewis versus Current Crop of Heavyweights

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  1. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    I completely forgot about Tunney and Johansson - good call and I stand corrected.
    I’m honestly not aware of any propaganda or revisionist history trying to portray Lewis as undefeated; he was stopped, somewhat controversially by McCall and flat out beaten by Rahman. I know of no one who denies those fights happened. I admittedly didn’t take into consideration his amateur career. If we are considering the amateur records, did Tunney and Johansson beat every fighter they faced in the amateurs? I really have no idea.
    Regarding the McCall rematch - are you trying to say that LL loses points for not knocking him down? The Atomic Bull had one of the greatest chins in boxing - but I’m sure you know that. The reality is that LL lost the first McCall fight, managed to get the rematch and during the rematch McCall broke down, stopped fighting back while Lewis was fighting which forced the referee to award a stoppage victory to Lewis. It was certainly a bizarre only-in-boxing scenario but not controversial. It’s not Lewis’s fault that McCall had drug issues. Should Leonard not receive credit for stopping Duran in the rematch because Duran wasn’t in top fighting shape and Leonard had never really even knocked him down?
    Be honest, if you fought a guy who gave you your first lost in the pros by way of stoppage, you then called for a rematch and he broke down emotionally with you hitting him in the process, wouldn’t you want some credit for that or would you say, “No, this just isn’t proper sportsmanship- this man has personal demons and the rematch doesn’t count. I only want our first match to recorded in history books.” ?
     
  2. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lewis would be undefeated if he fought in the current HW division.

    Of course, Joshua and Wilder would have a puncher's chance, especially if Lewis came in overconfident like he did in the 1st Rahman fight.
     
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  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Only point you made was how clueless you are. Mavrovic was not a cherry pick he was Lewis' WBC mandatory, lol. And that supposed cherry pick would school your big lumbering lump of a heavyweight in Wach. Wach would get his ass handed to him by Lewis worse than Mavrovic. He might go the distance with his chin by his stoppage losses to Povetkin and Miller of all people make that even a long shot.

    Mavrovic took 3 rounds of prime Lewis, while a roided Wach against Wlad who at 36 might not have been prime and who the month before lost his mentor and trainer in Steward, couldn't win a round. Wlad was possibly not even 100% for this fight and still toyed with Wach.

    Why your even bringing "My Hero" into this shows you're butt hurt that anyone should dare criticise one of Wlad's opponents and I'm not even criticising Wlad here, he's a top 10 ATG heavy but pretending Wach, one of his worst defences is any good is just laughable. Next thing you'll tell me is Leapai and Pianeta are world class.

    I'm not going to pretend that Mavrovic was proven world class, or that he was even a good opponent for Lewis at the time because he wasn't but he's a level above Wach. Just by watching him fight you can tell he's far more skilled than the crude and cumbersome Wach. Mavrovic did everything better than Wach apart from maybe punch.
     
  4. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wach took PEDs for the Wlad fight, and he still couldn't win a single round.

    Wach would have been target practice for Lewis. He would have stopped him.
     
  5. Mendoza

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    No chance for the next Rhaman or McCall? I think we'd see one upset.

    I agree with of your picks but the Joshua KO1 is a bit harsh. Povektin and Ortiz are old. I'd pay a lot of money to see him fight Fury.
     
  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    if there is one, then so in turn you must acknowledge that he would thrash them in the return.

    in which case, you have self destructed again.
     
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  7. MVC!

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    Lewis: my countryman Kirk Johnson. Thank you come again.

    Who did he win gold for again? Oh right, Canada.

    He lives between Toronto and Miami. Nice try.

    He also travels with a Canadian passport, has done so for years
     
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lol CST80 has an irrational dislike for Joshua, he even admits it himself, you can't take any prediction involving Joshua and him seriously. If Joshua and Martin fought again, he'd still probably give Martin a punchers chance and might even favour him to win lmao.
     
  9. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Joshua and Wilder would be dangerous. Both of them are tall, fast and extremely explosive. Maybe he could bumrush Wilder ala Golota but he'd have to be careful with Joshua and maybe even give away early rounds before closing the show.
     
  10. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    You are beyond clueless. A level above Wach based on what? Wach wins a decision on Mavrovic - bigger, stronger man, heavier puncher, busier fighter and just as tough. And Wach would also take your cowardly Lions shots just as he did Wlads and Millers in his last fight.. You clearly know nothing.
     
  11. Kloppbjs

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    You can have Lennox when Joshua becomes undisputed,or will you try and claim Joshua aswell.Canada is such a tinpot country for it's size,no one wants to go their,not even people from the Middle East LOL.You Canadians dont understand the reason he became a boxer in the first place was because he was bullied by some gay,soft Canadians for having a East London Accent.His whole success as a boxer has been indirectly linked to him being from London.First chance he got he ditched you lot,LMFAO,take the L.His Pro Career in the fights that mattered,against Tyson,Holyfield,Rahman look what flag he repped with.Not some flag with a Leaf.He came out with a Flag which used to the rule the waves.
     
  12. channy

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    This
     
  13. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lewis beats them all, I don't see a fighter right now who causes him any real problems.
     
  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    no, wach is shyt.
     
  15. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    its not littered with top names, but the am record is great.