Lennox Lewis versus Mike Tyson

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  1. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson had nowhere near the strength of Lewis at any point in his career. Hard puncher, for sure..they are on par although Tyson's faster..but I believe Lewis was significantly stronger than Tyson.
     
  2. KCD

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    People say that the Lewis who lost to McCall was way before his prime, well the Tyson who lost to Lewis was waaaaayyyyy past his.

    Lewis had everything to his advantage in this fight and he even took Tyson to court to prevent him from having a tune up against Ray Mercer, ***** move by Lewis.

    Tyson gets accused of starting the brawl, well from what i saw when Tyson appraoched Lewis, Lewis backed off with his right hand cocked and waited util Tyson had got into a scuffle with his minder and then cheap shotted Tyson.

    Tyson is seen as a bully and rule breaker, yet Lewis was just as bad, its just that Lewis is seen as some sort of boxing gentleman and Tyson a devil.

    Prime for prime:- Tyson via ko in 6
     
  3. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is fairly bogus. Let's look at it this way, Lewis fought 44 fights now let's assume the average fight went 6 rounds and that his opponents landed a mere 20 punches a round, so that's about 120 punches a fight..and let's say 40 of them are power punches. That would mean he was hit with at least 1,760 power punches, of which 2 knocked him out. That's way less than 1%. So if you want to talk odds, odds are he doesn't in fact knock him out.
     
  4. 2ironmt

    2ironmt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the chin was not the only point of the posts. and no one is saying lewis was china chinned, but obviously he could be put to sleep. what other huge puncher landed clean on lewis - vitaly? i don't remember tua really landing clean bombs. i do remember shannon the cannon wobbling lewis. were talking about one of the best hw ko's artists in tyson, so i'd say there are at least reasonable odds to say that tyson could ko lewis. but i am in no way saying that tyson would clearly ko lewis, i said tyson would get him in trouble at some point and would follow up and that he could ko lewis.
     
  5. 2ironmt

    2ironmt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i addressed strenght above, but lewis out weighed tyson by what 15-20 lbs at their respective peaks while lewis is 5 inches taller than tyson. tyson's legs have always been huge, tyson's neck is huge, and he's not skinny upstairs. i'd say tyson has better lower body strenght (arguably most important) clearly and there's probably not much difference in overall "strength" whatever that means and whatever relevance strenght has. tyson was all muscle and he packed 220 lbs on a 5'11 1/2 frame, i'd say he was pretty strong. lewis is 6'5 and is supposed to weigh 235 and he is obviously strong, but so was young mike.
     
  6. jecxbox

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    Prime For Prime? Tyson KO. Why? 1 reason, Tyson's leg speed and leg strength was 20x + more than anything Lewis has ever dealt with. To put it frankly, Mike Tyson that fought Lennox, WAS NOT MIKE TYSON AT ALL. There wasn't 1 ounce of of the real mike Tyson by the time they fought, So what is there to go off of? Nothing at all. To look at Lennox Luis vs Tyson prime for prime is to completely reanalyze the fight because it would be 100% different.
     
  7. anut

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    what lewis did in 2002 is nothing.......tyson was a shot cokehead in at 234 lbs collecting a payday

    prime for prime would look like tyson/bruno 1 against lewis.........I THINK TYSON WOULD STOP LEWIS WITHIN 6 RDS.......LEWIS HAD FITS WITH MERCER,,,,,,,,,MERCER PINNED LEWIS AGAINST THE ROPES BUT FAILED TO FINISH THE JOB.........TYSON WOULD GET THE JOB DONE.

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    ps 1987 version of tyson vs 2002 version of tyson??????
     
  8. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    :lol:

    The most ******ed reason yet!

    Keep em coming guys, this is GOLD!
     
  9. anut

    anut Boxing Addict banned

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    ya that was gay.
     
  10. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    Mercer is NOTHING like Tyson. Mercer had a fantastic jab, THAT is why he did so well.

    I might as well say that Tyson had fits with Buster, therefore Lennox demolishes him. But I wouldn't say that because as anyone with a brain knows, "A+B=C" logic doesn't work in boxing.

    Prime Lennox beats Tyson at any stage in Tyson's career, IMO. That opinion is not based on who did what agains other fighters, or even based on what happened in 2002. It's based on analysing their respective styles.
     
  11. Vanboxingfan

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    Your logic is convoluded. First you're saying other great punchers couldn't land against Lewis, meaning he obviously must have a surperb defense..then you're saying shannon rocked him and therefore out of the blue tyson would do the same.

    Fact is there's a whole youtube video of Lewis getting hit cleanly, some of which include Tua hitting him cleaning with his left hook. Obviously Lewis survived the experience and hit Tua back hard enough to put Tua in a shell for the rest of the fight. So hitting Lewis and getting him in trouble are two entirely different things. As mentioned, he's been hit cleanly well over 1,000 times and was only down twice. Tyson's been down more than that. The difference is Tyson was given severe beatings by Holyfield, Douglas, and Lewis, nobody ever had the skills to do that against Lewis. And the two times he was KO'd he got back in the ring and avenged his losses, just to prove it was a one off occurance. I think it's far better to get KO'd by a punch you don't see, than to take a sustained beating during a fight, cause then you're obviously the inferior boxer, hence the Tyson debacle against Holyfield in their second fight.

    Just think of the legacy Lewis would have had if those two punches never landed or in the case of McCall, he'd have seen it coming and prepared for it. It would have been amazing.