Lennox Lewis Versus Tyson Fury

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Who wins?

  1. Lennox

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  2. Tyson

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  1. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Tricky Fury (Wlad) has a better chance of beating Lewis, but he lacks the offensive edge, so he loses.
    Strongy Fury (Wilder 2) is weaker in the clinch than Lewis, and Lewis's head wouldn't end up under Fury's armpit a double-digit number of times during the fight; so he loses to Lewis too.
     
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  2. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I haven't seen that much of a one sided poll in a while.
     
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  3. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I believe prime Lennox beats any version of Tyson
     
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  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's walking Fury down with a heavy jab and leveling the egghead with a right hand
     
  5. TipNom

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    Lewis by a close 7-5 type decision with him scoring a couple of knockdowns along the way. Could Possibly score a mid to late rounds stoppage.
     
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  6. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lewis makes a fool out of the clod.
     
  7. SouthpawsRule

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    He probably loses the jab battle and gets outboxed, but Lewis is gonna mess him up in the clinch.
     
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  8. SouthpawsRule

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    Actually now that I think about it Fury might win a decision as well, Lewis didn't have that good of a cardio either and his feet don't come close to Fury's. Very even match, would be interesting to see.
     
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  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury barely threw anything against Klitschko who isn't a 1 trick pony. That's the closest style to Lewis he has faced except Klitschko was old and can't brawl at close range

    Lewis is the better inside fighter, has the smarter trainer and will eventually land missile guided right hands behind a power jab
     
  10. SouthpawsRule

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    Klitschko had a better jab than Lewis and he literally got out-jabbed by Fury.

    Lewis isn't better on the inside, he is just a lot stronger and his right hand won't be there without the jab to set it up. Wlad faced the same problem against Fury, Fury knows how Kronk Style works.
     
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It wasn't as powerful because Klitschko didn't step into it and Klitschko didn't double and triple it as often. Lewis is also better on the front foot, jabs to the body more than Klitschko, has more dog and Wlad was 39 and lost to Joshua in his next fight. Klitschko had no offensive tools at close range when he got there against Fury and Klitschko actually won the last round as soon as he started fighting aggressively. That last round was his best by far

    Can you show me Fury exhibiting infighting and mid range combinations as skilled as this against someone who can also fight on the inside ?
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  12. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    31 votes to 2.

    That being said I would probably go Lewis but the Fury who faced Wlad in particular wouldn't be a easy ask at all.
     
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  13. SouthpawsRule

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    Because he couldn't, Fury's movement prevented Klitschko from stepping into his jabs and he constantly distrupted Klitschko's rythm by feinting and using his own, longer jab. Vitali used the same tricks when he was out-jabbing Lewis.
    Nah Wlad is better, even Steward conceded that Wlad had the better footwork, better jab and just overall better technique than Lewis.
    He barely landed any body jabs against Vitali who was the only guy that is kinda sorta close to what Fury would bring in against Lewis. In fact he got outboxed at range quite badly before he decided to make it an inside war.
    He took 2 years off after that, Wlad was still going strong when Fury faced him, hell Fury was a huge underdog in that match.
    He landed a few good shots but lost the exchanges and was forced to back up whenever they started trading. He never hurt Fury either.
    Mercer is supposed to be the skilled inside fighter? This guy was getting his ass kicked by Damiani when they were trading combinations, he could barely handle Jesse Ferguson on the inside. Larry Holmes at 42 completely schooled Mercer on the inside simply by clinching and framing him off when he tried to throw and throwing short uppercut and hook combinations the same way Fury did against Hammer and Wallin. Lewis throws better inside combinations and hits harder, but Fury is better defensively and he is better at positioning himself and his opponents in the clinch. Lewis will most likely have the edge up close but only due to his physicality and power.
     
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  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Klitschko was never willing to press the action if he had the fight at the end of his jab, and isn't capable of firing off combinations in close quarters.
    Steward wasn't in Wladimirs corner in 2015 to help old Klitschko against Fury.

    Better footwork at range because he has faster feet, better balance, better fundamentals but Steward admitted Lewis is more versatile, and better at taking the fight to the opponent and actually displaying his offensive talent. The reality is Klitschko has no offensive tools at close range, his left hook was always mid range, he rarely throws the uppercut, generally doesn't throw in combinations unless it's a 1-2 something that finishes off with a left hook. Klitschko did nothing in those clinches with Fury because he didn't have the tools, Lewis would take advantage of the clinch. Steward described Klitschko as more talented than Lewis, more powerful but risk adverse, conservative, too calculated and willing to do the minimum to win likely because Klitschko had a poor gas tank and has been dropped several times.

    Klitschko's kronk style is not Lewis's kronk style, great jab but did Klitschko ever triple it ? What's does Wladimir do when the 1-2 and left hook isn't working ? Has Klitschko ever thrown a 5 punch combination ? Is Klitschkos counter punching skills even better than Lewis's ? Klitschko was past his prime against Fury anyway. Jennings landed more on Klitschko than any of his previous opponents during his unbeaten reign which signifies age because Wlad was already 39

    We can also use direct comparisons by looking at how a peak Lewis handles Rahman vs peak Klitschko handling a past it Rahman and extrapolate that Klitschko was more coordinated and better at controlling range but incapable of power punching at all ranges, less creative offense, has less incentive to take the fight by the scruff of the neck and far more risk adverse, it's clear as day. And this version of Lewis had a better reason to be more risk adverse than Wladimir
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    "I said that he was my best heavyweight. Because he did accomplish and do things that Wladimir has not did. He had big fights, he knocked out opponents. Wladimir has more talent, but the one that you have to give the credit, to the people who have actually beaten good fighters. And Lennox beat more good fighters than Wladimir has at this stage, although Wladimir has more talent than Lennox. But he has to actually not only just show that he has talent, he has to actually demonstrate his talent. Not just hold back, hold back, and only knock out people when I go crazy and curse him out because he will not let his missiles go. He's got to come out and be more aggressive this time himself, and not be too intelligent, too conservative, too analytical. He's playing a chess game -- he's got to be more natural. If he does that, he could be one of the best heavyweights ever. At this stage he has not did it. I'm hoping he will do this in the fight coming up."

    https://www.badlefthook.com/2011/7/...ays-wladimir-more-talented-but-lennox-greater

    Fury is closer to the likes of Akinwande, Biggs and Tucker stylistically but even if that were the case Vitali took several monster punches from Lewis which would have leveled Fury, Vitali had never been dropped before or since. Vitali also has the higher workrate, hits harder than Fury and his rhythm is harder to read, Lewis was at a career heaviest and admittedly underestimated Vitali on short notice like Fury apparently underestimated Ngannou and Wallin by your own accord
    He landed more shots and power punches compared to any other round.
    Old Holmes is leagues above Hammer and Wallin and they've never displayed any notable skill in the pocket. Wallin got his ass beat by a 40 year old Chisora and provided no resistance lol. You can absolutely argue prime Ferguson is more live than an ancient Chisora swinging wildly and laying on the ropes to recuperate

    Let me know about Furys superior positioning in the clinch, Fury was slicker and better head movement but Lewis blocked a lot more and this gave him better positioning for extended exchanges and his jab was more powerful. He had more creative offense in the pocket and was much more powerful overall. Fury couldn't even shut out Deontay Wilder at range and got caught big twice by someone who can only throw a jab and a right hand
     
  15. ThatOne

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    Why does Fury wear his trunks so high?