Lennox Lewis vs. Corrie Sanders.

Are you seriously suggesting that pre-Steward Wlad would give Holyfield a hard night ? LOL. You're a decent poster man but cmon. You have a case for Prime Wlad giving Holyfield a hard night but the Holyfield that lost to Sanders, Purrity and went life and death with Samuel Peter ? Really ?

 

I guess Wlad REALLY lucked out to come across a decade where the heavyweights were utter trash and then the moment he left the scene people started saying how much better it was! Old Joe Louis too. And Holmes. Man those guys were just lucky.

Ali, Louis, Lewis, Holmes, Wlad, Foreman ... other guys. Holyfield doesn't make my top 6

 

Yes, really.

 

This has to be a joke. Holyfield had relatively quick hands in his prime and even past it he atill operated at world level and possess more than enough power to stun Wladimir. Are you forgetting Holyfield was also a great infighter and combination puncher ? Amazing counter puncher as well

 

My bad i didn't mean the Samuel Peter Wlad but earlu 2000s Wlad. No way he beats Holyfield

 

Like today modern boxers did not had fought boxers beated up by Klits or Pov etc.

Even Chisora is beautiful proof : 40 y.o senior citizen in Vitali, guy with serious chronic health problems, almost 1 handed had outboxed Chisora during 12 rounds.
Yeah, and after this Chisora had appeared enough good test for Haye in the same year.
Then for Fury and damn, Whyte, recently for Usyk and Parker. Basically the same era.

Boxers from old era still had been used: Takam stopped after 10 rounds beatup from Povetkin, has been feeded for A.J to beat up.
Beautiful era, A.J last fight was vs Pulev, long ago beated up by Wlad from weak era.

I might continue with next opponents from old era used today. Beaed up also by modern , better era boxers.

 

So Brewster and Purrity's durability saw them outlast Wlad but Holyfield couldn't? Whatever you're smoking must be some strong stuff. Bowe was the only guy to stop a near prime Holyfield and even then he had Hepatitis. You really think a guy who went 24 rounds with Lewis, 12 rounds with Foreman and took Tyson's best punches wasn't as durable as Purrity or Brewster? You've gone from the ludicrous to outright right insanity.

I'm not saying prime Wlad couldn't beat Holyfield, he has a bad style for Evander if he's allowed to clinch and control the pace. But you're trying to say Sanders>Wlad>Holyfield while also arguing that Wlad wasn't even that great because even Steward version Wlad wasn't much better than Purrity and Brewster which means you're also saying Purrity and Brewster>Holyfield, which you then back tracked on saying only Sanders beats Evander because you realised you'd dug yourself into a hole and didn't want to debate Purrity and Brewster being better than Holyfield.

As for Dino, I've schooled him enough times about his BS views on the Klitschko's and quite honestly debating you right now is similar to debating Dino that's how bad things have gotten for you in this thread, lol.

 

one well placed punch and lewis is sleeping

 

The same applies in reverse.

 

That is your opinion.

 

Yes.

1:32. You obviously never watched the Cooper / Holyfield fight so let me assist

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Clearly you never watched Bowe / Holyfield either, so let me help you out:

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Obviously you are unaware of Toney / Holyfield so here it is, timestamp 5:30:

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Wladimir Klitschko, particularly in his yuounger offense-oriented version, hits harder than any of those three.

We're getting somewhere.

No. What I'm saying is that Sanders at his best was better than Mercer and Moorer and around the level of Holyfield. Holyfield had areas that he was better than Sanders in but likewise Sanders had areas that he was better than Holyfield in. The areas that Sanders was good in were specifically problematic for Wladimir. The areas Holyfield was good in were less of a problem for Wladimir. That's why I think Wlad beats Holy. Of course you could argue that Holyfield would beat Sanders and I think there would be a decent argument for that.

Kid, this isn't Dragonball-Z where a guy of LEVEL 9000 beats a guy of LEVEL 6000 I already pointed out specific characteristics that made those fighters problematic for Wladimir. If you don't get that then I can't help ya.

Hey now, calling me insane is ok but easy on the other insults, tiger.