Lennox Lewis vs. Evander Holyfield I

All I know, is ever since Spinks-Holmes, Leonard-Hagler, we the paying fans have been robbed with these decisions. Ali had to beat Frazier, beat Foreman. Even those old-timers fromn the black and white TV days had to beat the champ. Not jab and clinch, get a few uppercuts. Who made that fight? Holyfield. The only time Lennox came forward was when Holyfield attempted to draw him into battle which would have probably created a more clear winner one way or the other. I think Lewis didn't do enough to win the title. Holyfield had to beat Bowe, beat Moorer, beat Tyson, etc.. Lewis who cherry-picked fights throughout the 90's while the men fought. I would pay to see a 3rd fight because the same pattern would develop. Steward had a good strategy, he knew Holyfield would never be given a decision unless there was sustained action Watch the fight and tell me where Lewis dictated the fight an entire round. Clinch, hit behind the head, clinch and punch. So in short, for moving forward and fighting, you give it to the champ. For lack of aggression, you deny the challenger. Yeah, I'm a Yank, but I love boxing a lot more than caring about who the champ is. HBO fighters only have to survive now to win titles. 2nd fight was even more clearly a Holyfield win.

 

Of the nine people who voted for Holyfield I suspect at leat five of them are having a laugh.Could there possibly be nine people on this forum THAT dumb.

 

'Thats a travesty,a disgrace an outrage'

 

atsch I cannot believe that 9 people on here who voted that they had Holyfield winning.

 

My guess is that they're all Zak and his aliases..

 

I agree with your premise, but not with the decision rendered.

I'm a proud Evander Holyfield fan, and although I had Lewis winning that first fight by something like 8-3-1, I found that because of Lewis lack of real aggression, and lack of real snap in his punches.....most of the rounds throughout the fight were up for grabs heading into the last 30 or so seconds of most rounds.
.....because of Lewis lack of punching with real leverage, Holyfield imo was just a hard combination at the end of those rounds from taking alot of those rounds.

The fight being what it was, Holyfield could not deliver on those combinations.....in fact, he fought so atrociously, that seriously, he looked alot like a completely shot fighter. No rhythm to anything he did, and the worst was his footwork, it almost looked like he could trip himself as he put one foot over the other.
Holyfield imo looked alot like the shot version of Terry Norris.
I mention Norris, because Norris at his best, fought with alot of rhythm and spring in his legs......then Norris the shot fighter, tries to hop like he had done before, with alot of spring and hop to his legs, and its as if somebody filled his legs with lead.

Like Norris, that was Evander Holyfield in that first fight with Lewis.

A big difference in Holyfield's performance for the Lewis rematch....more balance, spring and hop to his legs, more manueverability and defensive moves.....everything he did was so much better when you compared it to his first fight performance......
A close fight indeed. I had it 7-5 Holyfield based on landing cleaner and harder shots......I could'nt critisize somebody having a round or ever two off from where I had it.

......what sours me however is that based on the wide scores by the judges for Lewis in that rematch. Its quite evident that the judges went in with the thinking that two wrongs would make a right.

Based on the wide scores, Holyfield never had a legit and honest chance at a decision that night.
The heavy criticism and outrage from the media made sure of that.

The judges were just feeling so much pressure.....the backlash from this fight was so, that the criticism of it went all the way up the halls of the Senate in Washington DC., where the corruption within boxing was brought up, and talked about as fact.
.....this sent shivers down the boxing orginizations spines, for their sport to be depicted in that way, and for the light to shine on their corruption.

.....in any regards, I have no doubt in my mind that the wide scores reflected in the Holyfield-Lewis rematch, we're from boxing orginizations instruction to the judges that if they are to err, to do so in the side of caution, and to make absolutely sure that it is Lewis this time to get the benefit of any round that can be construed to be anywhere near competitive.

The reality is that Holyfield was'nt going to get a decision on the night of the rematch, unless he put in a dominant performance.

 

The reality is that, 9 years on, a section of Holyfield's fans still have not been able to accept what really happened. And no doubt 9 years from now will still be in denial.

objectivefan, congratulations on making one of the worst, least-informed posts I've ever seen on ESB. If you sincerely think Lewis was able to 'cherry pick' his way through the heavyweight division while everyone else did all the work then you're truly a hopeless cause and your username couldn't be any more ironic.

Feel free to post a little pissy rant back here if it makes you feel better, I believe liberal use of emoticons and swearing every other word is usually the norm, but in reality you'd do much better by going away and actually learning something about this sport.

 

What makes this even worse is the woman that gave the fight to Holyfield.. Eugenia Williams.. is still judging boxing ????????? How on earth can she be allowed to judge?? I guess now that she's known as Gene Williams they figure we wont know huh ?
I scored the fight 118-110 Lewis

 

Proof that the core orginizations in boxing (alphabet orginizations) have no interest in seeing to it that they be held responsible for the integrity of their sport from top to bottom.

.....anybody that followed this sport for some time now, would have by now come to the conclusion that these alphabet groups want judges like Eugena Williams that are easily manipulated by them.

If Eugena Williams is still judging, its only because she did what she was supposed to do in Holyfield-Lewis and in many other fights.

Its really quite simple, and it goes for any occupational environment an individual might find themselves in......Do what your boss wants you to do, and keep your job......Go against your bosses wishes, and get fired.

Eugena Williams is still judging, and anybody with a brain would come to the conclusion that she's gone by her bosses wishes!

People blame soley E. Williams for her bad scorecard, when in actuality, she was only abiding by the governing bodies, and alphabet groups wishes!

 

Williams had already been sacked by the WBU before Holyfield-Lewis. The f'cken WBU!! The ibf have no credibility whatsoever.

 

Lewis won this easily.

 

Now 13 people have voted for Holyfield.At least everyone still believes the draw was bull****.

 

Yep. My guess is they're more than 9... oh wait, 13 votes up there. :verysad

 

Lewis threw twice as many punches and landed nearly 3 times as many. He landed more shots, cleaner shot, more powerful shots, was hit less and missed less. He ****ing dominated the fight not just won it.

Can the people that voted for Holy please make yourself known so I can laugh at you. ****ing idiots.