Lennox Lewis vs HW today

Yeah, for me he had proved that he was level below Vitali if to be fair.

I don't care about British boxing fans opinions, this 1 single fight result and internet posters.

Lewis did not had fought rematch vs Vitali.
Lewis fans might die by posting how great he was, I never will think that he was better than Vitali.

Vitali likes me more and ate this, your Lewis and his career matter for me nothing and Lewis fans opinions too for me matters absolutely nothing.


Lewis retired instead of fighting Vitali again and you might **** in your pants about Lewis and I will laugh how " better " than Vitali he was.

1 good night vs replacement boxer.

Btw I think for Vitali was even better not to fight vs british cash cow again on B side, why?
Vitali made career without fighting with cash cow Lewis again and not likely cares about fans posts in forums.

You think Lewis is so cool, go to the hell with Lewis.
He was not actual when he had retired, only noise fans are yelling in forums even today while also Vitali had retired.

LOL at boxing fans and their hype.

 

I never said any of that stuff that you addressed, but fair enough.

With regards to the stuff that you’ve addressed, Lewis was most definitely out of shape by his standards. He was also definitely on the decline. To deny that is to deny science.

Who would have won, prime for prime? I’d have to go with Lewis, given that he had a better career, and that, again, he’s already beaten him at the very tail end of his career. That speaks volumes. I can only imagine how things would have gone if you’d shaved 5 years off of Lewis.

 

If he was out of shape, why he had scheduled fight and even bothered to get replacement when he did not had get initially suggested opponent?
By age I agree, however interestingly if boxers in such age are not US or British boxers, then age does not matters anymore?

Well, real life volumes are these: Vitali after he did not had get rematch vs Lewis most likely didn't had gave a f ****** about Lewis greatness or not greatness, nor about Lewis fans opinions, Lewis " legacy " etc buls****.
Unlike boxing fans, he was also KBer and not at all he was undefeated there.

So he made career despite this lost fight vs Lewis and without rematch.
Btw I think this was even better, I respect more ppl who does not dance under cash cows music but better have career maybe with a bit lesser income.
Nothing wrong there.

Also do not claim that Lewis H2H might had beated Vitali and he is better man.
He is not and he will not beat a kickboxer under KB rules, not alone h2h.

Lewis speaks volumes as cash cow and he was great boxer.
His fans are milking this win vs Vitali as ultimate proof how much better Lewis was.
This is normal, casual thing in boxing fans posts.
While the same Vitali most likely stopped even to think about Lewis existence in this world after he did not had get rematch.

Boxers changes, stars are going and coming, fans are the same and are living in history.

 

Only to his nuthuggers like you.

 

I don’t care about kickboxing and it has nothing to do with this. And why would Lewis turn up out of shape? I don’t know. He’s a person, and he has character flaws. Also, perhaps he did not take his originally scheduled opponent seriously, and therefore didn’t train hard. Again, perhaps a flaw in his discipline.

I can sense that Vitali’s defeat is causing you some discomfort, so let’s agree to disagree and leave it there.

 

Some discomfort for me might cause only Lewis fans here, not even this Lewis for example, btw he even today is not fat while ppl here attempt to claim that he was overweight.

Actually for me even more likes that Vitali did not had fought vs Lewis again.
Why?
Lewis was huge cash cow and I think better for Vitali was not to dance under cash cow music on B side.

Everyone might build his career as he wish and defeat to Lewis was maybe even good for him: he becomed more well known, he get more fans and even more after Lewis did not gave him rematch.
Sorry, you can't made Vitali fans think that Lewis was better than Vitali. For them Lewis does have only 1 belt: duck belt.

Why I had mentioned kickboxing?
Boxing fans are very special and only in boxing ppl assume that if fighter A had won 1 fight vs fighter B, this is ultimate proof that fighter A always will beat fighter B, as ultimate proof about greatness, levels above or levels below.

Boxing is with such fans and also business where cash cows are A side.
Fans too are very specific.
Business adapts to serve this small sport fans niche called boxing fans.
They are small niche if compre with other sports, boxing isn't so great.

 

He could and should beat the lot, with Fury and Joshua the biggest challenges, but the two blemishes on the record suggest he loses concentration and loses to someone he really shouldn't do.

 

Whoa, we’re talking boxing. I could not care less if Lewis could not kick-box. I’m not debating who is the better street fighter. Jesus wept.

Secondly, saying an athlete is out of shape, is not claiming he is in some way unhealthy when compared to your average person. Again, by his standards, Lewis was out of shape, and not for the first time. He also weighed 253 for his first Rahman fight.

Look, there are many things that we can debate with merit, such as, did Lewis avoid the rematch? That’s a fair claim to make.

We can also debate with merit what would have happened in the rematch.

We can also debate, again with merit, what would have happened if Lewis did not absolutely wreck Vitali’s face when they fought. But he did wreck his face.

So what we cannot debate with any sense of merit is that they did fight, and a past prime Lewis won. An overweight Lewis won.

We also cannot debate that Lewis, to this day, was the last undisputed heavyweight champion.

Also, Lewis did not get the respect he deserved in the sport until the end of his career. Hindsight is 20/20.

Vitali was a great fighter, as he proved throughout his career. That only reflects greatly on how amazing Lewis was.

 

Agree. Lewis was on another level entirely, than everyone fighting today

Fury would be his biggest test but I would pick Lewis rather decisively

 

Joshua also has elements like a right hand counter over the jab which is pretty fast

 

I think if he fought them all three times each, he'd probably be 29-1 or 28-2.

Fury might nick a points win out of three but noone else gets near on points IMHO.
AJ, Wilder or even Whyte might connect with something hefty that does the job, but this is more luck than a deserved win and wouldn't be likely to be repeated if rematched.

This is all to say that 10-0 is not unlikely, but a single loss wouldn't be astonishing.

 

But look at all the fightes that managed to go the distance with Lewis.

 

Ortiz, Wilder, Fury and AJ would have all had a good chance at beating Lewis, even if they couldn`t beat him, all four of them are better than anybody Lewis fought, Whyte may have had a chance to, could have scored a come from behind KO maybe.

 

AJ is a fantastic combo puncher, his hooks when thrown in combo`s are better than Lewis`s were.

 

You're such an idiotic fan boy. Still mad at the TKO6 that happened in 2003 ? You mad about the art piece Lewis carved on Vitali's face while he was past his prime ? I find it funny how you say Klitschko was past his prime fighting Fury but don't give Lewis credit for beating Vitali when Lewis himself was overweight, pushing 40 and took the fight on 2 weeks notice