Lennox Lewis vs Jack Dempsey

Sorry. Ali was 206 not 201 when he fought Liston in Maine. That Ali would outspeed and out punch and embarrass every hwt mentioned. Not a question of size. Today boxing skill is a lost art in the hwt ranks. It's all become an WWF and MMA mentality.

 

WWF?

And you are referencing a fight in which Ali's opponent clearly took a dive?

Do you even realize how ridiculous your comments appear?

 

Jack has already destroyed 6-6 men before and would hurt Lewis, then keep hurting him and give him no rest before a slashing attack stops Lewis on his feet

 

Yes, 6-6 was all that Lewis had going for him.

Julian Francis was the greatest of all time.

 

Harry Wills was better than Fred Fulton, and hie might have been better than Jess Willard, but I don't think that he was a better test of how somebody would fare against Lennox Lewis.

 

As McGrain has pointed out quite clearly, we are not looking through rose tinted old timer nostalgia glossed lenses.

Despite the opinions of idiots, Lewis was NOT a C class fighter like Willard. He has 60 pounds on Dempsey unimaginable power and strength advantages, and the speed with which he threw that right hand, is as fast as anything Dempsey ever dreamt of throwing.

As stated it is a total mismatch, unless you are gullible enough to fall for reputations. It is beyond foolish to claim that a 190 lb guy from the early 20th century stands a chance against a 250 lb guy of the late 20th, early 21st century of Lewis's ability, no matter what his name was.

 

Yeah, and Lewis has flattened soppy little runt Heavyweights
( yet still bigger, stronger, and harder hitting than Dempsey ) without even breaking sweat.

So your point is?

 

My hesitance is because they never fought, so we can't say for sure what would have happened.

Either way, if we are talking about matching Dempsey against Lewis, then a fight with Willard is going to tell us more.

It leaves us in very little doubt, that Dempsey had the artillery to take Lewis down, for whatever that is worth.

 

This post says far more about you and your over inflated ego with your desire to prove yourself as some kind of expert, which you are not.

You mention the ONLY Heavyweight in history to move and dance the way the young Ali did, as though it is some revelation on your part. EVERYONE knows that guy was a phenomena and could never be equalled.

The people that should be eternally grateful for his enforced exile, are the useless, robotic, plodding, Foreman, the one dimensional Frazier, and the good all rounder, but nothing special in any department, unless you count his jab, Holmes. He would have made those guys look just as stupid as he made the rest of his opponents look pre exile if he hadn't lost that agility, and fantastic foot work.

Comparing the young Ali to ANY Heavyweight before or since is just as stupid as comparing some idiot's yacht to the Queen Mary.

 

It's a question not of dimensions, but weight for me. Lewis is only 3" taller than Dempsey, and with the way reach was measured back then (wingspan) we know his arms would be longer, but how much longer is hard to say.
In any event, 3 inches in height and a few inches in reach are not insurmountable by any means.

But a 50+ pound weight advantage is pretty significant, especially when the bigger guy is strong and can hit and knows how to employ that weight advantage AND can box pretty well.

 

that and his great chin

Dempsey by KO in 4

 

my point is that he would wreck that chin by round 4

 

It is like this guys.

Lewis is not going to beat Dempsey because he is big, or even because he is big and good.

On the flip side of the coin, Dempsey isn't going to beat Lewis, just because Lewis is big.