Lennox Lewis vs Jack Dempsey

Obviously Dempsey would have a lot to contend with against Foreman but it would not be a Frazier Foreman style blowout.

Dempsey would not just come straight ahead like Frazier. He would circle him up on his toes and try to find an opening.

This would be a verry much open fight.

 

I think Tyson beats Foreman, though. He's a sole exception to the otherwise pretty clear trend that swarmers lose against Foreman. Superior handspeed, a better defense and at least equal chin being the key aspects which would serve Tyson well. Foreman would need an early KO I don't think he'd get one.

 

The cow-puma analogy was a response to a thought that size makes an elephant the favorite over an ant, which struck my funny bone. Obviously, these type of analogies are worthless.

 

I think the Norton fight PROVES Foreman was not a great finisher, I mean Norton just keep getting up. Foreman did not lay Norton out flat like Louis did to Braddock or Marciano did to Walcott, or even how Dempsey did to Carp. All these guys got the ten count. The ref stop Foreman's attemp of finishing them off.

 

Yes,the ant analogy also tickled me,i mean who cares if the ant is p4p 20 times stronger,the elephant kicks the **** out of the ant....
P4p best fighter simply means the guy would get **** on by the heavyweight champ.....Otherwise they would say hes THE best fighter period.

 

yes he would, probably. Tyson would be coming straight at Foreman, George has powerful hooks, uppercuts, their is realistically no way Tyson despite his defense would not get hit. If Tyson was a warrior like Joe then maybe but even then hed probably lose

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At8h-yqUPWU&feature=related


Watch from about 8.09 onwards and the slo-mo replay afterwards. About four or five monster shots right on the button: a devesting finish to be fair. Despite his less than stellar chin all I can say is all credit to Norton for even attempting to rise again after that (he may not have been down for the count but sure as hell didn't know where he was there). I sure don't think Foreman should be discredited here you're selling him a bit short.

 

If Tyson could do it then it is prety much a given that Dempsey could.

Dempsey was probably harder to hit cleanly than Tyson and was much more mobile. His chin was perhaps comparable, and he was much much better on the inside.

 

Janny,i will have an ounce of what you are smokin son...:smoke

 

He got up. That was pretty sloppy, just swining punchings and hopeing they hit. It only look impressive because of Norton's jaw. And yet Cooney was able to put Norton down for the count, and Foreman could not. That was not finishing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvhscZl7He4

Louis lays him out. No getting up.

Marciano ko's Walcott. Marciano is underated in this department.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DojRjL_FKY

Thses great finishers left them out cold. Foreman failed to do that.

 

You couldnt afford it.

 

Your first two points are arguable. Third one wrong. You have a case with the last one. I think it's the gulf in size and strength aspect though which makes me rather heavily favour Foreman I don't think Dempsey would quite gain Foremans respect nearly as much as Tyson would. I just think Foreman would manhandle him.

I think Tyson generally fights at a more ideal range to be successful against Foreman in terms of exposing and picking his defence appart better (he also wouldn't dwell on the inside): Dempsey was a great inside fighter for his weight, but Foreman would simply push him into firing range ala Frazier. Once Foreman has him hurt it would increasingly become one way traffic and Dempsey would be in mere survival mode.

 

Im neither interested in peter or floyd (unless its v cotto.) and i know that floyd would get trounced by peter or even chad dawson in a boxing match. (hell,even pavlik could do the job.)
Dempsey is not a grogosaurus,he and lewis are both homo sapiens
and so your analogy is once again moot.
Finally,the fumes off your reefer are enough to aid cranial activity with a trip down boxing lane.....
Why cant barbados joe beat bob foster by your logic?