Lennox Lewis vs Jack Dempsey

This right here demonstrates that you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. You're embarrassing yourself, stop already.

 

So he wasnt brutally knocked out after being carried by Johnson for 12 rounds until Ketchel tried to get smart and try to win???

Its generally believed that they had both agreed the fight would go the distance as you could make more money that way as people would then watch the fight in local theatres.

That didnt happen?

Im pretty sure I know plenty.

But still,feel free to believe a crude 1920s 185, 5'10 brawler would beat a 6'5 ,245 lb boxer like Lewis, you go ahead and do that.

Im sure you also believe Jesse Owens would beat Usain Bolt.

That Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in the modern NBA.

Frederic Puskas and George Best would stilll be superstars in modern soccer.

Rod Laver would whup Nadal and Federer.

etc,etc,etc/

 

Lewis was 4 inches taller than Dempsey not 7.
I believe Dempsey was quite a bit sharper than Lewis , he had quicker feet and hands too.
Lewis was out boxed by Bruno, for several rounds, and,out jabbed by Mercer for several rounds, neither were good boxers.
The average weight of Louis title challengers is 202.8lbs.

 

The majority of the louis opponents were smaller than him.

He had 10 lbs on most of his opponents

A few big guys throw off the scew.

 

Luis Firpo would have been knocked out in the first round by David Haye

 

And Dempsey was outboxed by Willie Meehan, not once but twice. My point being is that taking a poor performance of either fighter and extrapolating an outcome isn't very helpful, as I suspect both Bruno and Mercer were far better boxers than Meehan. As for Dempsey being sharper than Lewis, my question would which version of Lewis.

If it was the young 227lb fighter who fought Razor Ruddock, I'm not so sure. I think that version would be very dangerous for Dempsey, and it was the version Bowe avoided.

If it's the 38 year old 256lb version that fought Vital then yes, Dempsey in his prime was sharper than that version. But he did lose twice to Tunney so he too declined at the twilight of his career.

 

So Lewis you proclaim, was "faster than Dempsey or Joe Louis " ? With your statement, I have nothing more to say !
Oh yes, and the World is flat....

 

Carnera, buddy baer and Simon were as big as Lewis but IMO they wernt better. Ive no wish to get into a debate about this, im just throwing it out there, but both guys got put down by fighters who, again IMO, were not as big a hitter than Lewis.

Not shitting on Dempsey or the brown bomber,2 ATGs, but i think Lewis's right hand would connect more than people think:good

 

Nah, you're right.
Jesse Owens would whup Usain Bolt, just lookm at how fast he was in those old grainy pictures!

 

Wiilie Meehan was a 4 round specialist, six months aftdr beating Dempsey the second time he did the same thing to Sam Langford, if he fought either over 15r ds ,who would you bet on?
I think a prime Dempsey is sharper than any Lewis.

Dempsey was out of the ring for three years when he lost to Tunney.

I haven't made a pick here and, in an earlier thread I said Lewis poses probably the most problems for the other heavyweight Champions ,[outside of Ali]. I am also English so no agenda here.

 

Lewis in 10

 

I don't have an answer for you cause there really isn't one, but my point is when we make these mythical comparison's it's not fair to use the Lewis who lost to Rahman, McCall or struggled with Bruno and Mercer as the hypothetical version of the fighter Dempsey would be facing, any more than it would to be use the Dempsey who lost to Flynn, Tunney or Meehan to support why Lewis would win. Supposedly these comparisons are made on a peak to peak basis.

That was my point.

As for a prime Dempsey being sharper than any version of Lewis, it's hard not to disagree, for the first round or two at least, but after that, I have my doubts. And like I said, I think the version of Lewis that beat Ruddock, Golota or advanged his loss against Rahman, would give any heavyweight in history a hell of a battle cause he's not on most peoples top 5 H2H list for no reason, when he's on his game and he's aggressive, he's a H2H nightmare for pretty much any fighter.

 

Lewis within 3 rounds

 

Lewis would **** slap him