Lennox Lewis vs Joe Frazier

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Sweet Science, Sep 10, 2007.


  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    This was a man who had had less than 18 rds of actual competition in nearly four years,for what its worth prime Ali,thats the guy we never saw beats frazier 3 out of 3,imo.
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I read all your post and was taking issue with your inaccurate assertion that Frazier had "DEVASTATING POWER IN BOTH HANDS",he didnt.And Dont tell me to STFU<You BLIND P***K!,Get off the tread and put Waldo on!.
     
  3. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It'll take just 2 or 3 rounds for Lewis to KTFO Frazier. Too smal, not very powerful hitter and with only slightly above average chin.
     
  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    :roll:
     
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  6. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    I agree, but prime Ali (the one we never saw or '67 Ali) beats any heavyweight in history 3 out of 3. The Ali that Frazier '71 faced was still a great fighter despite the lay off. '71 Ali would have beaten most fighters including Lewis.
     
  7. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why's that?

    Ali was a great fighter, but this idea that he was unbeatable just doesn't jive with the facts.

    He had a lot of bad habits that Lewis could potentially exploit. He tended to go straight back when backing up, he never had much of a body attack, he didn't have anywhere near the power Lewis had, and he tended to always pull Frazier head down, that certainly wouldn't work against the much bigger Lewis who would likely be throwing upper cuts in that situation.

    So I think while the younger quicker version of Ali might have been able to beat Lewis with his speed, I certainly don't think the past prime Ali would beat him. Ali's main attributes were speed and his ability to take a punch. If he looses the former, the latter only ensures he's around til the end.

    I'd also give other fighters, particular a prime Tyson and Holyfield, and perhaps Louis a reasonable chances to beat this version of Ali as well. Oh almost forgot about Holmes, he too would likely beat this version of Ali.
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I was joking of course!
     
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Fair enough, I got a bit carried away with my comments as well :D
     
  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    :good :good :good :good
     
  11. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what? Joe was a VERY powerful hitter. :huh
     
  12. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He wore people down by accumulation of punches. Sometimes literally hundreds of punches. His left hook is surely overrated like hell.
     
  13. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    :nono His left hook is surely hard as hell
     
  14. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Several other fighters needed just one punch on a still fresh (not worn down after 14 rounds of hell) Ali to put him on the canvas.
     
  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Several?

    How many fighters can you list who actually floored Ali, particularly when he was in his prime? I counted maybe 4 times when Ali was down, and only one of them came in his prime to a hard puncher ( Frazier ) Two others came before he had peaked, while the 4th occured past his prime. And keep in mind, I'm talking professional ranks here.