Lennox Lewis vs Joe Frazier

So a pre- prime Lewis had trouble with Mason and Billups? I thought he stopped Mason and unanimously decisioned Billups?

Did he have anywhere the amount of trouble that Frazier had with Bonavena who dropped him twice and only lost a split dec to him?

 

I don't think Lewis fought anyone as good as Bonavena in the fight 12 months or so of his Career.

What chance do you give Billups and Mason versus Bonavena?

 

I give Mason a decent chance against Oscar.Lewis fought Mason in his 15th fight Frazier fought Bonavena in his 12th,and you didn't answer my question.

 

Your question was did billups and Mason give Lewis the same trouble as Bonavena gave Frazier. My answer is no but then Bonavena was better than both of them so that kind of answers it.

I couldn't give Mason a chance against Bonavena. Not with what we have to go on. No real competative fights. Perhaps he could have developed into that kind of fighter but we can only judge on what we saw of him. Lewis was his only real step up fight, it ended his career. Before that mason had a lot of clever match making with guys with enough name left but not much desire.

 

To beat frazier you need to both match his work rate and have a chin of iron.

It would be a fairytale to say Lewis has a high work rate or a chin of iron.

It's not just about Being bigger and punching hard. It won't be enough.

 

5'9 vs 6'5 here we go...

 

I wouldn't say Foreman had a high work rate.

 

Foreman didn't fight prime Frazier.

 

I don't think Lewis had a bad chin. He just did not have a cast iron one.

He got knocked out when he had lost control of the pace both times. He never saw the punch both Times.

 

Actually the fairytale would be to say Frazier had a chin of iron, in fact I think it's debatable if his chin was any worse than Frazier's. It was Frazier who was down 6 times in one fight, not Lewis. And Lewis' power isn't a whole lot less than Foreman's. And so far about 62% of the people on this form disagree with your ****ysis.

 

Obviously comprehension isn't your strong suit. But the fact is Frazier was put on his ass far more times than Lewis was. And the fact he was KO'd means he too never always got up.

 

I think Joe Frazier was closer to 6 foot.

 

Frazier went down all those times when he was past his best. At that particular time Frazier was a seriously flawed fighter. he could do nothing to prevent Foreman from beating him down. He was defenceless against that type of opponent at that time of his career. Frazier represented no more challenge to George than multiple cans he beat on the way to the title. It would not have been so during Fraziers 1968-71 peak. Forget Foreman. It did not happen to prime Frazier.

Prime Lewis? McCall. Rahman. No decline was responsible for those knockout defeats.