Lennox Lewis vs Joe Louis

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    The New York Times.

    Is there a press report that describes Walcott landing more punches? I would genuinely like to read it.
     
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  2. blackhercules

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    How does any of this pertain to Joe Louis vs Lennox Lewis? Oh it doesn't. Maybe we should stick to the topic at hand and that is overrated china chin 200 pound Joe Louis in a fantasy fight vs the far superior true heavyweight who only fought true heavyweights Lennox Lewis.
     
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  3. McGrain

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    I agree that it's strange that Louis "fantasy fights" always degenerate into discussions about fights Louis won narrowly. It's very strange and a regular occurrence both.

    But another poster asked a question about a source. It's normal for those questions to be answered by the board, whatever the thread topic.
     
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  4. blackhercules

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    Okie Dokie then. Then do continue lol
     
  5. KuRuPT

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    I didn't say a press release stated that he did or didn't land more punches. I said, it's mitigated by the MAJORITY stating there reasons for picking Walcott. They could say he landed the harder punches, they could reference the KD, they could reference that Joe was looking befuddled in there (which they did and he was), sh1t they could say they preferred Walcott's trunks as a reason. The point is, whatever reasons they gave for Walcott winning mitigates a press release citing why they picked Louis and why. Point is, Walcott should've likely been awarded the victory, not the other way around.
     
  6. KuRuPT

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    I agree with McGrain here as well, but I was responding to somebody who said it could likely the verdict was correct, when it's actually the opposite of that. It's likely Walcott should've been declared the winner. Nothing more.
     
  7. McGrain

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    Yes, I think that Walcott definitely could have been awarded the victory cleanly. Furthermore it's a fact that the majority of ringsiders would have been more satisfied with that result.

    But it is also a fact that 18 boxing men found for Louis. That's 18 men within "eyeshot" who thought Joe Louis deserved the victory. These included the NYT and Ring Magazine. It's also true that there is limited footage.

    In combination, this is enough for me to dismiss any talk of robbery. If you're happy to draw a line in the sand in the same sort of spot i've no problem with that point of view.
     
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  8. janitor

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    My point is that the limited evidence only permits so many conclusions.

    You might conclude that the decision was an outright robbery, or you might conclude that it fell within the bounds of reasonable interpretation.

    Without disrespecting the opinion of the majority of ringsiders, I find myself pushed towards the latter position.
     
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  9. Glassbrain

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    The only fighters I would pick to beat Lewis are Liston and Ali.
     
  10. Glass City Cobra

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    Again, nobody cares about a 0.5 inch difference and there are multiple sources saying otherwise. I could see if it was a full inch or inch and a half. Do you just have to be special bringing up useless trivia?

    What did the damage against briggs initially was a big wind up right cross. Briggs also got up. So again, i dont get what your point is.

    Uppercuts are not the same as hooks so youre bringing up the botha fight because.......??
     
  11. mcvey

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    You accused me of using false information, in fact its you who did so.You can look up Louis's height in his book.
    You disparaged Lewis' left hand I just pointed out he knocked down and stopped guys with it.
    My point is you often don't know what the hell you are talking about and ,when you are called on it you get snotty.
     
  12. blackhercules

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    Cute then you realize Rahman and McCall actually knocked him out. I know that is shocking to you since clearly you didn't aren't smart enough to know that.
     
  13. blackhercules

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    Why are you arguing with McVey? He doesn't know what he is talking about ever. So it would be best to just put him on ignore like most people do.
     
  14. Glass City Cobra

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    Learn to read, i said he didnt have the best left HOOK obviously lewis had other punches with his left arm.

    If i used "false information" then thats the editors of boxrecs fault you idiot.
     
  15. Glass City Cobra

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    Good to know, thnx.