Lennox Lewis vs. John Ruiz.

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  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What if these two had fought? Who would have won?

    I say Lewis by early KO.
     
  2. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :roll:, REALLY, Lewis whenever he wanted too, im guessing this would be a 3 or 4 round fight with Johnny staring at his eyelids when it's over....
     
  3. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruiz was mediocre. Lewis would destroy him.
     
  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Ruiz by science.
     
  5. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Ruiz has a chance if they allow enough cheating. But I think his only significant chance is to clinch Lennox like a prom date enough to lose a decision.
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    One thing is for sure.. The two of them would enjoy themselves a lot more than the crowd would.
     
  7. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lewis, he was a much better fighter.

    Lewis could also fight rough (dirty), as Ruiz probably would have found out.

    Lewis constantly held and hit when he landed the right uppercut. Ask Michael Grant.

    This tactic would come in handy when Ruiz would try his octopus ****
     
  8. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis far more talented, bigger, more power. Both fought dirty. Ruiz was very tough.

    The only time he got destroyed was 1st rd KO by Tua, who catched him cold.

    Other than that, he wasn't easy opponent for anyone (besides Roy Jones:roll:). He was old and shot against Haye.

    How I see the fight? Ruiz holds every time he's in danger. Fight is ugly as Lewis also can hold. Lewis trying to be agressive like vs Akinvande, who held him every 5 secs. Lewis tries bodyshots and uppercuts.

    Ruiz fakes low blows, slips to the floor many times (like vs Evander), and remains on his feet till final bell. Judges score it wide for Lewis.

    If Ruiz is't allowed dirty tactics, then Lewis stops him in 6-7 rounds.
     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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  10. heizenberg

    heizenberg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Lewis knocks Ruiz out anywhere between the 1-6 and likely within the first four. Ruiz doesn`t have much of a chance at all if you ask me he`d try to hit and hold but Lewis would beat him to the punch and over power him while Ruiz tries to grab him.
     
  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Well I don't think it would happen as you mean.

    Ruiz was stopped twice in his career, once by Tua, suddenly and very violently, and once by Haye well past his prime.

    He survivied punchers like Oquendo, Rahman, Johnson and Golota without much difficulty. Now Lewis was a different kind of beast entirely to these guys, but tell me, when did he ever box aggressively against a conservative opponent? Tua, Tyson, Holyfield, when a guy is happy to be controlled by the Lewis jab, what does he do with them? Controls them with the jab.

    Ruiz isn't going to rush Lewis. He's going to try to slip and punch, then he's going to try to get inside and maul. Lewis will go 5-1, 6-1, 7-1 up in rounds. Then he'll start to tire a bit, and close off by winning three or four out of the last five or six. At no time will he feel threatened enough to want to take chances, and Ruiz will force a great deal of inaction upon the fight.


    Meanwhile, Ruiz is tough, he's a tough tough man acquainted with the principles of negotiating twelve rounds for pride. I don't see a knockout here, and would bet accordingly.
     
  12. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would go with a Lewis ko. Can't see a way for Ruiz to win really, can't box with Lewis nor outfight nor outwrestle him.

    Ruiz grabs, Lewis leans on him and walks him back, tires him out and starts timing the uppercut.
     
  13. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Lewis would destroy Ruiz, either by early KO - or if Ruiz was able to get away with his illegal holding tactics, he would get beat up and then KOd.

    Ruiz didn't have anything to take advantage of Lewis's chief weakness, his less than sturdy chin. And he certainly didn't have the boxing ability or skill to win.

    Ruiz's only hope might be to fake a low blow like he did against Holyfield and Johnson and hope for a sympathetic ref like Schmeling had!! :D
     
  14. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    No way. Ruiz too slick too strong. Lewis has a heart attack in his dressing room.
     
  15. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I started by thinking I'm going to say, surprised at your opinion, Lewis Ko's him out of the dressing room. But your post is correct, Lewis was the most analytically heavyweight champion ever, he would do enough to win for sure, no more, no less. Ruiz was tough, clever, brave and above all resourceful, Lennox by a shut-out, Lewis only becomes maybe the best heavyweight ever when he is scared?