Lennox Lewis vs Larry Holmes

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  1. Savak

    Savak Guest

    Both had very similar styles. Both known for their amazing jabs and ring movement. Solid right hands and upper cuts. I think Lewis punched harder but without a doubt Larry had a much better chin and heart as well.

    If these two every fought in their primes. Who wins?
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not sure how you measure heart, if Lewis didn't have heart he likely would have lost against Mercer and Vitali. Chin's also hard to measure because Lewis was hit with bomb's throughout his career and only hit the canvas twice. But I will give the edge to Holmes in the jabbing department, which can often dictate a fight. I think if they fought and it went to a discussion, Holmes would win, but if the fight ended due to a stoppage my gut tells me it would be Lewis doing the stopping.

    Since I don't recall Lewis losing a decision, I would have to think he'd win if they fought prime vs prime, but it's a hard call and I won't call it an upset regardless of who won.
     
  3. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Let's not kid ourselves...Holmes definitely had a better chin than Lennox.

    I picture Lennox starting out fast before Holmes settles into a rhythm and taking the lead with Lennox playing catch up. That's how it goes down.
     
  4. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holmes UD. Holmes gets hurt and dropped, definitely outjabs Lewis and survives
    to win.
     
  5. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm always dubious of claims of a fighter getting dropped then getting up and winning the fight. It happens so rarely and when it does happen the vast majority of the time it's because a fighter was dropped near the end of a round and was able to recuperate between rounds, but it's a rare occurrence at the best of times.
     
  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Holmes was faster and a bit more active in his prime. Holmes by points.
     
  7. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Holmes by decision, obviously.
     
  8. MAJR

    MAJR Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have this as a pick'em fight. I can see either man winning, but one thing I am certain about is that the Jab is not going to be the decisive factor. Both Holmes and Lewis had great jabs but, regardless of who's was better, both struggled against fighters who had good jabs.
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very good reply.:good
     
  10. Savak

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    Tyson is the only person who has ever knocked holmes out. This was Tyson at his absolute best and it took 3 knock downs and a series of punches to finish him.

    Lewis never ever got up from just single shots on his feet properly. Larry has proven he can take a big punch.

    Larry has to weather the early storm and get Lewis to run out of gas before going for the kill
     
  11. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Considering they both rely heavily on their jabs, Larry's advantage in hand speed and slenderly better counter punching abilities, help Holmes' indefinitely in the early rounds and I envisage him being able to beat Lennox to punch more frequently than vice versa. Towards the second half of the fight both men will have to dig deep, the fight would open up and both fighters natural instinct will begin to take over. Larry's vulnerability to the right may well pay dividends for him, however his incredible recuperative abilities, chin and heart, against Lennox's ability to spoil, good survival skills and a natural fighters instinct, leads me to believe this one would go to the scorecards.

    I must say I'm not all that keen on Holmes and stylistically this makes for a fascinating fight , but I give him a slight edge here. A younger more aggressive Lewis that goes for the knockout from the get go may have a better chance, but assuming the first third/half of this fight is more of a technical and tactical battle, Lewis effectivley fights Holmes fight, consequentially giving his opponent enough of a margain to hold on for the points decision victory.
     
  12. Waynegrade

    Waynegrade Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When debating chins, I think it,s fair to say Holmes had a better set of whiskers. When it comes to climbing off the deck and finishing, it,s Holmes. Holmes had (without a doubt) the best jab the heavyweights have ever seen. It was faster than Lewis` and had a lot more snap/ He was equally adept with shooting it downstairs or upstairs. Footwork,ie. lateral movement,again Holmes. His footwork was far superior than Lewis. he was a superb boxer with tremendous ring savvy. Lewis had better right hand power,and was a good finisher. But, I can,t see him stopping a prime Holmes, Can anyone honestly see him outworking and outpointing Holmes over 15 rds ? Can anyone here see McCall or Rahman stopping Holmes ? Prime vintage Holmes,didn,t lose. Homes by comfortable UD. He makes Lewis drunk enough to mug him,and comes on strong to close the show. Another thing to look at here, atitude and intimidation,Lewis used that quite well in his career. However when he looks in the eyes of Holmes ( I know Lewis 2 inches taller) he,d be looking into a heart of a champion intent on punishing him and who would come right out looking to show Lewis who the boss is. Holmes has too much jab,chin and ring savvy for Lewis.
     
  13. Waynegrade

    Waynegrade Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great post,Holmes did NOT get stopped ! A peak Tyson facing an old and comebacking Holmes is the only one to turn the trick.
     
  14. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    To paraphrase Holmes's own words. He isn't fit to carry Lewis's jock strap. The ONLY way Lennox loses to him is if he came in with the same arrogant attitude he had towards Rahman. Totally unprepared, intentionally because he considered Hasim to be a muppet.
     
  15. Savak

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    Holmes considers Lewis a joke. He mocked his Jab and commented he would have been lucky to be a sparring partner during his reign