Lennox Lewis vs Late 2000's Wladimir Klitschko

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad still panics, even Steward questions his confidence. His 1 tactic while being attacked is to hold on that isn't going to hold up against the likes of Lewis, Lewis would be the best

    Bruno could have done with Steward in his corner, alhtough I htink ultimately Steward to be overrated, he's done a good job with Wlad but he isn't teaching him anything that sophisticated

    Its simplistic but Lewis was very aggressive, he prefered to go for the KO than to box, but he did box when he was cautious or when he was being lazy and he almost seemed to switch off. But in plenty of his fights he was happy to walk through punches to land his own
     
  2. The Mongoose

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    -He looked very poised to me after Haye hurt him in the 12th round and Haye did hurt him with that right. He held to shake the cobwebs as most every great did including Lewis and than wisely put the pressure back on David with one of his more aggressive offensive bursts of the fight.

    -That's kind of the point, Steward isn't there to teach them complex techniques. Quite the opposite.

    -Not really, and while that paragraph was much better written your way off base on Lewis I believe. Lazy fighters don't shut out their opponent with their boxing technique...seroiusly, PP are you trying to put one over on me?
     
  3. The Mongoose

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    That must be some good ****, your smoking. I recall an exhausted Holyfield laying on the ropes, dropping his gloves, and desperately begging Lennox to mix it up several times.

    "Why didn't you try to knock him out, Lewis?"

    "He was hurt, a man is his most dangerouse when he is hurt, definetly."
     
  4. The Mongoose

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    -You think Holyfield showed limited offense by choice or because he was completely shut out by Lewis' jab and inside smothering?

    :think

    -Nah, I've seen Lewis opt to box under pressure too many times to agree with that conclusion. Lewis mixed it up against Mercer but that was because he was forced to. Now Lewis has turned pressure fighter when the situation calls for it..Vitali, Akinwande, and Grant comes to mind. Matches where it looked like he could be outboxed from a distance or was at a reach disadvantage.
     
  5. SuzieQ49

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    Wlad showed huge improvement in his ability to clinch and fight hurt when Haye tagged him with that devastating right hand in round 12.
     
  6. Ponysmallhorse

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    He didn't panic in Haye fight. So? Steward doesn't question his confidence he questions his mind set. He says that Wlad is superior athlete and he is in mindset more athlete than a fighter. He want's his fights to be Perfect runs ALL THE TIME.
     
  7. PowerPuncher

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    I thought he looked visably uncomfortable, not just hurt but uncomfortable and not just in the 12th, he resorted to holding and leaning on his opponent (rule infraction). In effect he's accepting he can't compete inside/mid range. Which is a shame as his left hook is truly great and he never uses it anymore

    In some of Lennox's pre title fights (pre Rudduck) he very much switched off toying with his opponent rather than apply pressure and command the ring, Lewis has a bad habit of thinking opposition is below him and doing this, that's part of the reason for his losses
     
  8. The Mongoose

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    -He looked calm to everyone else, about as calm as a guy can look after getting buzzed by a flush right they didn't see coming. We've seen Wlad panic(Peter I and Sanders fight), we know what to look for. It just isn't there this time or has been for a while.

    -Wlad did very little holding against Haye. As for the rule infraction crap, Wlad appeared to only nudge the lunging Haye down once or twice, the rest were glaring flops to buy points and save his ass when he was in position to be hit by one of them left hooks....

    -Sorry, this Lennox stuff is all over the place. You originally commented he was a brawler who was so lazy he boxed, and now you are going back to pre-Ruddock generalizations to try to justify this weird statement.
     
  9. Mendoza

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