Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson 15 years later

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  1. Staminakills

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    Tyson couldn't EVER fight 12 straight rounds like he fought the first 3, not even 1985 Tyson has 6 rounds like he had those first 3. LL was always way too much for tyson. The best ever tyson vs the worst ever LL is still mismatch with tyson having a very slim punchers chance.

    LL would always respect tyson in the ring so highly improbable you'll see LL wavering like knowing e his 2 mishaps.
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    Tyson couldn't EVER fight 12 straight rounds like he fought the first 3, not even 1985 Tyson has 6 rounds like he had those first 3. LL was always way too much for tyson. The best ever tyson vs the worst ever LL is still mismatch with tyson having a very slim punchers chance.

    LL would always respect tyson in the ring so highly improbable you'll see LL wavering like knowing e his 2 mishaps.
    Tyson was a busted myth, at his best. His fanfare wasn't anything close to the actual fighter
     
  3. Oneirokritis

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    Ron Borges was one of the very few people not to buy into the hype surrounding Tyson in the aftermath of his prison release. In my opinion, his comments throughout this episode of HBO Legendary Nights were absolutely golden.
     
  4. G Man

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    He still never flaked though, and Mike on form probably wouldn't have needed 12 round against Lewis. Watch his later rounds early in his career.
     
  5. Oneirokritis

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    Agree completely. Signing with Don King, the prison spell, coupled with his crazy and excessive lifestyle when he was on the outside before and after prison all conspired to finish Tyson as a true elite force at Heavyweight.

    There is even a quote somewhere in Tyson's book, from the Scottish novelist and sportswriter Hugh McIlvanney, saying that Don King encouraged his fighter's excesses so much so, that he ended up precipitating decline in most of the fighters he managed.
     
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  6. Heavyrighthand

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    As I see it, Tyson was a very good entertaining brutal fighter who came along at just the right time.

    He was to be elevated to iconic status given the mediocre opposition field that he steem roll through

    But when he started facing other very good and even great fighters, Tyson's limitation ( partly due to his short stature which hindered his ability to deal with a tall boxer with a good jab and not to mention Tysons weak mentality ), the seemingly "great beast" began to crumble rather quickly


    Douglas was not even a great fighter and he showed what a well executed jab could do against Tyson, giving his short stature
     
  7. Blackclouds

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    Prime Mike could do 12 strong rounds but would not have needed all of them against any version of Lewis. Lewis would not have been given any reason to be comfortable in the ring like in the actual fight with well a well past it Tyson.
     
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  8. G Man

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    Why didn't it crumble against better fighters than Douglas? And why did Mike coincidentally look shot to pieces before a single punch landed?
     
  9. Oneirokritis

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    The most crucial aspect towards Douglas beating Tyson is this: Douglas fought without any fear of Tyson and his aura of destructiveness that day. In fact, Tyson even said of the fight that, rather than him being the aggressor, it was Douglas who was bullying and intimidating him the whole fight -- meeting Tyson head-on with the jab and straight right without getting overly careless or complacent, backing Tyson up and rocking him, and on occasion punching Tyson on the break. Douglas having no fear of Tyson gave him the foundation and the platform to do all of the above and more, and fight the fight of his life against, in my opinion, one of the most feared Heavyweights of all time.

    Yes, Tyson may have barely trained, if indeed at all, for the fight (which he alludes to in his biography). But don't allow that to detract from Douglas' accomplishment: Douglas still had to get into the ring with Tyson and do the business.
     
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  10. G Man

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    So did Williams and McBride. No great achievement. Good but not great! Mike is all or nothing, spectacular or average. They beat an average/less than average opponent.
     
  11. Oneirokritis

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    Except, you forgot to mention Tyson wasn't a finished, dried-up husk of a fighter when Douglas beat him.
     
  12. G Man

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    That was the start of it though. It's not some wild fanboy conspiracy theory, it's just fact. He looked like **** from round 1. Douglas' amazing skill wasn't the reason.