Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson, prime for prime, who wins?

Yes some of the greats surely do say some odd things!
In Foreman's case I believe his most reliable quote may
be "Don't get married till your at least 30"

 

He said that? Smartest thing he's ever said.

Did you get Tyson's Undisputed Truth yet? Wonder what he says about Foreman in there. Or anything about his time in the clink. My copy should be here Monday.

I still got Tyson KO 6 Lewis.

 

The post above is correct. Lewis did start battering Tyson around when they sparred to the point of D'Amato having him thrown out of the gym. He didn't want his protege's fragile ego totally shattered.

Then there is all the bollox spoken ( spoken by Tyson nut huggers ) about why Tyson paid step aside money to take Holyfield instead.

The undeniable fact is that King wanted OPTIONS on Lewis, and Lennox was never going to deal with a moronic piece of **** like King.

Lewis by total humiliation, before destruction. Tyson is not fit to carry Lewis's size 14 boots.

 

$ has got to be on Lewis. Giving Tyson a live puncher`s chance. When Lennox was prepared and focused he took a good punch.

Lewis by decision or maybe TKO.

 

This story (like you) is full of so much ****

Lennox, on the HBO documentary admitted himself, he was scared of Tyson, he didnt want to fight him because he was 'an animal'. (Lewis own words.)

Lewis fought like a big old scaredy cat against a Tyson who was already one foot into retirement in 2002, but somehow he toyed with a much younger hungrier version of Tyson under the tutelage of Cus Damato? Im having hard time believing that.

If Lewis really manhandled the younger Tyson, like some of the nuthuggers on here state, then why did he not blow him away when they eventually did fight? Instead he fought like he was scared and Manny Steward had to scream at him to 'Get this mothercucker out of here' hardly sounds like a confident fighter to me.

Compare that to Holyfield. Tyson and Holyfield sparred one round in 1984, look at Holyfields attitude and confidence before and during the fight, he handled a much better version of Tyson than Lewis. He sparred Tyson, he knew what Tyson was about and he took it to Tyson. Lewis just threw a few jabs, leaned and pushed him down and that was that.

As for the Tyson Ducked Lewis bull**** you came out with, what the **** was Tyson supposed to do? fight Lewis for peanuts or fight Holyfield for $30m+. Tyson got £50m+ for the 2 Holyfield fights. He would have got **** all for fighting Lewis, a guy who was just coming off a dodgy decision against Mike Tyson wannabe Ray Mercer and a humiliating KO defeat to former Tyson sparring partner Oliver Mcall.

Tyson didnt pay Lewis step aside money, he paid him money for losses of income due to not giving him his title shot.

Theres a reason why Holyfield Tyson was called 'Finally' because people wanted this fight. It was the Pacqiao/Mayweather of its time.

 

Lennox fans are hilarious. They can't even admit that a young Tyson would atleast have been competitive with Lewis. How can any sane person claim that the 88 version of Tyson would lose in such a one sided manner?

I can understand someone who thinks Lewis would have won that fight. But by no means would it be on sided. Tyson would do a much better job at slipping past Lewis's jab and would have landed far more shots than he actually did

As for the Ruddock vs Tyson and Lewis vs Ruddock, please keep in mind that Lennox struggled vs Ray Mercer and an old man Larry Holmes beat Mercer. Does that mean a prime Holmes would destroy Lennox? No

As for what Tyson said, fighters can sometimes say things that they don't really mean. Ali and Tyson were on the Arsenio Hall show in the late 80's and when Ali was asked whether or not he would have beaten Tyson in his prime, Ali said Mike would have knocked him out. Does that mean that would have necessarily happened? NO


Anyway i pick Tyson to beat Lewis, with both men at their very best. I say its 60/40 for tyson. The young Tyson IMO would land som deadly combinations on Lewis and finish him. Tyson TKO 6, but i would not count Lewis out.

 

I also forgot to mention, by the times Tyson and Lewis fought, Tyson was essentially a one round fighter. Watch the first round of their fight, it was quite competitive. A young Tyson would have much more speed, slightly more power, better head movement and much better stamina. You would have to be a complete moron to believe that such a fight would be one sided.

While Lewis does deserve to be rated above Tyson due to their actual accomplishments, there is no way he is the greatest heavyweight we have had to date. There is no case for Lewis to be rated above Joe Louis or Muhammad Ali. Period. Yes Lewis is top 10 all time but certainly not the greatest. Any fighter who was stopped twice by average fighters with just one punch is not the greatest heavyweight ever. Not even close

And for the record, Tyson isn't anywhere near being the best of all time either. He wasted his talent and based on accomplishments, he deserves to be rated below Lewis.

 

Anybody who saw the Mercer fight and still thinks Lennox would beat Tyson is just in denial.
Lewis was a top heavy plodder with two left feet. Tyson was a solid stump, deep rooted into the canvas who moved like a light weight. He would of got to Lewis and bombed him out.

 

Who is to say Lennox would not of gotten his boots smooked by Toyko Douglas. Lewis wanted nothing to do with a 90s Larry Homles because of his jab.
Buster had a very good jab. Who as Lewis beating in the 90's on the level of Toyko Douglas?

 

Nice try, but more pro ****** garbage.

Lewis scared of the ****** scum? Yeah right dream on. What did he do when the mental midget tried his tough guy bull**** at the promotion fiasco, slapped him to the floor, and made the scum revert to the dog background he came from and try to bite Lewis's leg.

Go away and crawl back under your stone with your Tyson hard man LIES.

Even when the dirty filth went to prison for **** they sent him to a juvenile offenders institution, as opposed to a real prison. Then they put the nonce in a vulnerable prisoners wing for his own protection.

Even murderers have, mothers, sisters, daughters and female cousins, and the thought of some scum raping them brings out the thoughts of murder again.

So stop this pure American horse ****, about Tyson being a scary monster to anyone other than junkies, pissheads, and wierdo's.

Tyson was, is, and always will be a fvcking nonce case bully who likes to intimidate, bugs and earwigs, and ***ually abuse women. No more, and no less.

He took that lifestyle it the boxing ring with him, which is why he got fvcked by guys who treated him like the lowlife scum he is.

 

I think Lewis did have some fear of Tyson going into their fight. He wasn`t sure what Mike may do when he started to lose. He had already bitten him at the press conference.

That was basically Tyson trying to get out of the fight but it didn`t work. In boxing terms I don` t think Lennox was that concerned. He knew he was the better fighter and that Tyson`s only chance was a haymaker.

It was big $ but also a fight Lewis had to take to quiet the last of his critics who would still say Tyson would have beaten him.

 

This is surely one of the more talked about match ups of all time. Its always hard to picture what would've happened if these two would've met in their primes. Tyson's prime IMO would be 1987-1988,I would say Lewis was at his best 1997-2000. If they clashed at their very best I could certainly see the fight going either way but if I have to choose a winner I gotta take Lewis.

I feel Tyson overall has the better chance of scoring a KO because of his great power and constant aggression to go along with Lewis's somewhat suspect chin. Lewis has every bit the same amount of power as Tyson and could score a KO as well. I think the most likely outcome though would be Lewis implementing a very good game plan and being able to out point Tyson by using his range well, holding at times when Tyson gets to the inside and at times fighting Tyson off. I'd expect Tyson to be coming forward jabbing his way in and at certain points would land hard punches and force Lewis to fire back. At some point I would expect Tyson to hurt Lewis and have one or two big rounds in his favor, but I'd also expect Lewis to get the better of some of the exchanges and hurt Tyson at different points in the fight causing him to back off. At the end of the fight I'd expect it to be close with Lewis winning 7-8 of the rounds. I'd expect the fight to have some rounds that aren't particularly active and Lewis would carry those rounds, I'd also expect a few very exciting rounds where both fighters land big shots something like the first round of their fight in 2002 and as mentioned I'd expect Tyson to have one or two big rounds.

On the other hand I could picture a prime Tyson shaking up Lewis and causing him to become gun shy leading Tyson to either destroy Lewis much like he did to Tyrell Biggs. I could also see Tyson win a decision in a fight that somewhat resembles his fight with Tucker. There is so many different outcomes I can picture in my head of what might have taken place if these two met in their primes.

 

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You didnt answer a single one of my points.

And you called me American? atsch

Tired of debating with you, you stupid mother****er, join my ignore list, with all the other ******s :hi:

 

Douglas had a better jab , footwork, defence and combination punching than Vitali and could actually fight to a gameplan.
Vitali just pawed at Lewis with uneduacted pressure and his mess of a face was the result.
You assess those fights and its clear Douglas was the higher skilled and better fighter and would of beat Vitali hands down and possibly Lewis of that night as well.