Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson, prime for prime, who wins?

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  1. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    True about everything you said.

    But I really don't think the version of Tyson that Douglas fought was him well trained and in his prime. Few fighters, Duran included, have careers where they step into the ring 100% prepared, and it's pretty hard to argue that this was the best version of Tyson we've all seen. A prime, in shape, Tyson may very well have won that fight. Truth is, it's hard to say.
     
  2. Foxy 01

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    I have to say I mostly agree with you, but to me it just showed Tyson had no ability to adapt. I simply don't buy that a 23 year old kid was not in his physical prime, rather he just thought all he had to do was train to the minimum, turn up hit the guy and it would be all over. After all that is exactly what he had been doing up until Douglas.

    I would NEVER accept he trained any more or less for Buster than he did for Spinks, Bruno, and Williams.
     
  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If this is your position then you shouldn't be agreeing with Foreman/Dempsey as he maintains that Lewis was " absolutely in his prime." This is preposterous.. He was 36 years old, only fought once in over a years time, showing up at higher and higher weights, had been recently sparked by Rahman and was in the last 1-2 fights of his career. Sure he avenged the Rahman defeat, but the fact that he lost the first time around showed that the light was starting to flicker.. I don't know how any of the above can translate to anyone being prime or anywhere near it. As per your comment about Tyson being even "further" past his best than Lewis, THAT I can agree with and have always upheld the same opinion.
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

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    Don't know the answer to your last question, but I don't 100% buy the argument that:

    a) this was the best version of Tyson and because it was..

    b) Lewis would have had a similar outcome.

    Certainly if point "a" is true, then point "b" makes sense, but if it's not than it doesn't.

    Personally I'd like to think that in their primes Lewis would win, but truthfully I honestly don't know.
     
  5. Foxy 01

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    I firmly believe that the version of Tyson who lost to Douglas was the same version as the one who had KO'd his previous 6 opponents in a combined 20 rounds.

    I don't buy the nonsense that he suddenly went down hill after Rooney left, because there must have been friction in the camp between the 2 for some time which resulted in Tyson sacking him. Yet he was still knocking guys over in short time.

    And yes I do honestly believe a prime Lewis beats that version of Tyson, or indeed any version from 87 onwards.

    Waits for some Tyson fan boy to jump into the discussion with " poor little Mikey's prime was only 85 - 86 "
     
  6. JohnThomas1

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    You make some excellent posts in here Goo.
     
  7. mcvey

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    I concur:good
     
  8. mr. magoo

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  9. mr. magoo

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    Thanks mate, but my work holds no candle to your own. :good
     
  10. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, i re-read his initial post.

    He did say Lewis was in his prime when he faced Tyson.

    I think he clarified later that he thought Lewis was at the tail end of his prime, or still close to it.

    The second part is probably true.
     
  11. mr. magoo

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    Perhaps, and if those were indeed his words then I recant that quote. But he argued with me tooth and nail that Lewis was still prime when he fought Tyson, weather it be "near prime", "end of prime" or whatever... And that's not something I'll agree with. Lewis wasn't even within seeing distance of prime when he fought Tyson, regardless of weather or not he was still the better preserved of the two.
     
  12. Saad54

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    I edited my post

    I was wrong.
     
  13. mr. magoo

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    No problem.
     
  14. foreman&dempsey

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    :deal:good
     
  15. mr. magoo

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    The word "prime" shouldn't have been used in any way to describe that scenario... Lewis was nowhere near his prime, weather it be at the "end" of it or otherwise.
     


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