Lennox Lewis vs. Muhammad Ali

Jimmy Young did. Holy & Morrison beat the 2nd coming Foreman before he got real old. But Lewis won't be able to :huh Not even 50-50?

A fading Ali rope a doped this master of cutting off the ring, but a stronger, harder punching Lewis would get "trapped."

You're picking one of LL worst performances and holding it up as some sort of standard that a hypothetical fight would go w/GF. Why not use some of Foreman's worst performances as a standard for how this fight would play out?

And before you make any response, I've posted many times that among the 70s fighters, Foreman would be the most suited to fight modern HWs - not Ali or Frazier or Norton or the others.

 

atsch It was the guy that *I* was responding to that said Ali was light years better then current HWs. I didn't state that Haye was light years better then Ali. Try to keep up Loudon.

Loudon, you can't even read, much less argue a losing position.
I stated that David Haye is as fast as Ali and a bigger puncher
In other words Haye has comparable hand (and foot) speed to Ali, not faster. And yes, on a good night Haye could stop Ali. Why not. Much weaker punchers than Haye have dropped Ali.

Anyway, you can't even read, follow a response, or make a logical argument. Even your lame insult responses are riddled with errors.
Go back to your Ali worship :tired

 

Jimmy Young was a small fast moving slick fighter. Lennox is not. Lennox can't do anything except for jab and Foreman will take 2 or 3 to land a punch all night. The word pain wasn't in George vocabulary.

Just wow! Ali was never KO'd,Ali never put himself in the position to be KO'd by journeymen. Lennox would not be able to sustain a beating like Ali did.

How come it was his worst performance vs Rahman? he was doing fine until he got KO'd and the same goes vs McCall...

Why is Foreman most suited to fight modern HWs?? Dumb ass

 

rofl so persistent glover

Wlad is not chess lol,all he has is the 1-2 and the help of the referee for excessive holding and long clinches.
That's all well and dandy but Jimmy had lateral movement and it's why he ducked someone Chris Byrd.

Ali fought every that was around at the time so how can you say that..Lyle hit Foreman I think harder then anyone in the 90s,stunned him for a whole round after 1 right hand. Lyle hits harder then Rahman,McCall,Tua the lot.

But the point remains Ali never let himself be KO'd by journeymen.

You say luck,Decker says worst performance? Which is it? It's neither. He looked like good Lennox until he got sparked. You don't know if Lennox would knock them,they were small with good lateral movement? I'd say like Byrd he'll probably drop his belt to avoid facing them.

only one with strength? Back in 98 Lewis went on a TV show and he couldn't even lift over 180lbs (vvv.thesuperstars.org/comp/98final.html scroll down to weight lifting results)

 

But you said Foreman is modern because of his strength? How do you determine Frazier is weaker then Vitali? You need to back up what you say rather then assuming.

Lennox dropped his belt rather then facing Byrd he fought Vitali. The rest is assumption, only thing factual is the only small lateral HW he would have fought he avoided so there's more truth in Ali beating Lennox.

Lyle hits harder then any 90's HW. Evident when he hit Foreman with 1 right hand and did more damage then Holyfield did with 10.

Wladimir only has the 1-2 and clinch. The real champion holds the WBC belt. If he was as good/smart as you say he wouldn't have such bad losses.

Gift decisions again with the assumptions! How do we say it was a gift? He won. Ali doesn't have a brother who helped him stay champion and is the better fighter. After Samuel fighter any pressure fighter was given to Vitali for good reason,anyway Lennox ducked Byrd its fact.

 

Lewis was stripped for refusing to fight Ruiz.

He sparred with Ruiz in the past and obviously didn't fancy his chances.

 

Whose shots exactly has Foreman taken? We have never seen him handle a modern day 240-250 lbs HW punching power. A chin that was 'good' 50 years ago fighting borderline CWs might be mediocre (at best) in the modern HW era.

 

We can only say Foreman and Holmes are comparable to modern because they fought in modern era and were competitive. But that being true wouldn't it be certainity that other fighters who gave them harder fighters also be competitive in the modern era. Yes of course they would.

What else am I suppose to assume glover? He dropped the belt instead of fighting Byrd what other suggestions is there? He dropped it because of how Byrd fights so yes there is more truth in Ali beating Lennox.

Lennox ducks Ali.

I don't think I've heard one fighter ever call Holyfield feather fisted or say he didn't punch hard at all?

He's more agile? Come on now Vitali style is akward as fk he moves back and fourth,side to side,leaning back while Wladimir just stands there and instead of being agile he just holds.

He would have lost against Chisora even his trainer knew it.

Because he's Wladimir older brother,he's more interested in politics then he is boxing where as Wladimir is committed to boxing.

Chisora like Briggs would have eaten Wladimirs shots all night. Worst type of fighting he could face is a pressure fighter.

That must be it and i'm not assuming anything glover, the fact is Lennox dropped a belt rather then facing Byrd.

 

Oh dear :-(

 

Really..

 

Ruiz dropped Holyfield and Lewis never even came close in 24 rounds.

Lewis never smashed Tua. He played it very safe and just jabbed him for 12 rounds.

Most of Lewis's belts were picked out of the trash can. He was stripped twice and dumped a belt once on top of avoiding guys in their prime.

Ali never ducked or avoided anybody in his life.

 

Holyfield was in Lewis's face and pushing him against the ropes. What survival fool?

Stupid troll , you nothing about these boxers.

 

Popular opinion is he was robbed against Briggs. He was 48 or 49 when he fought Briggs. Morrison fought a smart fight and was walking back most of the fight. He could have beat any of those fighter had he landed two shots like that in such a late round like he did vs Moorer.Also know any other fighter who took Evander punches like he did..ye none. Just about every fighter he fought he relied mostly on his chin and his ability to take punishment.

 

Give Tommo a short while and he will no doubt get himself banned again.

Hey Tommo,

How about you create a Haye v Ali thread with a poll. If you are that confident Haye would be odds on favourite to win such a fight then surely the results should go in your favour and prove you to be a knowledgable boxing fan.

Of course the results could also prove something entirely different

 

Lewis knew when he saw Golota alomost knocking out Grant in the first round that he was a hypejob and he could smash him in his sleep.

Thats why he dropped his belt against Ruiz and fought Grant instead.