Lennox Lewis vs Nikolay Valuev

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  1. C HOP

    C HOP The World Awaits Full Member

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    i admit im a big lewis fan but i dont see lewis as a guy to really keep him at arms length with a stiff jab

    Valuev only really got beat by Ruslan Chagaev through hugging and moving inside of valuev then forcing strong punchs ,

    i dont see lennox lewis doing this , and i dont see him controling the ring with this guy either, lewis likes to stay in the middle of the ring and keep opponents at bay with the jab then looking for a long left cross into opponents i cant see him sticking to his usuall gameplan which could trouble Valuev as he is to big to keep at bay
     
  2. welshwonder

    welshwonder G.O.A.T Full Member

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    maybe so but then again jabs arent always about height, mike tyson often out jabbed people 5 - 6 inches bigger than him because the timing of his shots was tremendous , now take lewis who is a very good jabber with very good timing against a slow and cumbersome fighter who uses his head as a defence barrier. only one outcome valuev KTFO.
     
  3. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    lennox would kill this guy. valuev is very slow and a stationary target. probably early/mid round stoppage on his feet. wlad would do the same thing to him
     
  4. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Valuev is 7'0 320lbs. Those people are as rare as 6'6 240lbs men in the 20's. As a consequence, Valuev has mediocre talent at best. He has been trained pretty well in that he keeps a fairly good guard and has a good jab, but he is too slow, has too little power and his defense is too weak. A big guy with tremendous talent like Lewis will beat a relatively untalented huge guy like Valuev.

    Valuev has never fought anyone as accurate, powerful, adaptable or skilled as Lewis.
     
  5. Woddy

    Woddy Guest

    I don't give Valuev much of a chance here. Valuev while having great size, lacks in many ring fundamentals and is very slow to say the least. His power is virtually non existant, and his best performances were decisions over a shot Larry Donald and faded John Ruiz. These fighters can hardly be compared to a prime Lewis. Valuev is nothing more than a tree that Lewis would chop down, weather it took 2 rounds or 12. In the end, Valuev would be a battered mess, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he'd give a game effort.
     
  6. RoccoMarciano

    RoccoMarciano Blockbuster Full Member

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    :lol::lol:, enough said regarding this thread.
     
  7. RoccoMarciano

    RoccoMarciano Blockbuster Full Member

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    Are you being the Devil's advocate again, Janitor? :lol:

    I know your views regarding size... this statement doesn't fit with those views.
     
  8. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I really don't think Lewis is going to be looking for a jabbing decision anyway, he was almost always very aggressive against his larger opponents. He would usually even mix in some body shots (easier to reach a bigger torso I guess).

    I think he would push to try to get a stoppage, and a consistant worry for me about Valuev (because I actually quite like the big lug) is his lack of head movement. If you can wing a shot up that high - and even Owen Beck was able to - then you can land. And even with seemingly as good a chin as Valuev has, no ref is going to let a puncher like Lewis bounce rights and lefts off Valuev's stubbly noggin without stopping the fight.

    And that's how I see it ending. Lewis with repeated shots to the head until the ref steps in for Valuev's safety. On the basis of Valuev's career so far, I don't have enough faith in either his defence or his skill to think otherwise.
     
  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    This sounds about right.
     
  10. mike101

    mike101 New Member Full Member

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    Valuev is much too slow and ackward to last more than 4 rounds, Lewis himself is not all that good to start off with. Lewis's only saving grace is his jab, otherwise Lewis is an average boxer. If Lewis faced a young George Foreman or an Ali, He'd never won the belt.
     
  11. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Valuev might last the distance, but christ... His face is going to be hamburger at the end.
     
  12. Woddy

    Woddy Guest

    Common,

    Everybody knows that the bigger modern heavyweights always prevail against the smaller fighters who preceeded them.
     
  13. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hahhaa, that's funny now that I think about it.

    Imagine, 20 years from now all fighters are 7'3 and 350 pounds.

    DEM' 6'5 BUMS FROM THE 90'S WOULDN'T STAND A CHANCE.

    So says the forum members in the year 2027. :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  14. Woddy

    Woddy Guest

    Yeah men like Ali, Holmes, Louis, Marciano, Lewis, and Tyson will probably be revered as little more than journeyman and tomato cans by 2027.
     
  15. abraq

    abraq Active Member Full Member

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    You really believe that. Ruslan Chagaev, who is smaller than Lewis, did that with a fair well. Even Ruiz ran him close.Common,

    Woddy, are you really serious.