Lennox Lewis vs Rocky Marciano

Rocky had 1,000 psi of force in his hardest punch, ali scored the same, no one described ali as a power puncher, rocky hit hard and put full power behind every punch, but he was an attrition fighter that would break his opponents down over a period, even according to Archie Moore he hit hard but wasn't a one punch knock out guy. Stylistically hes a good match up against lennox but lennox probably had a good power advantage here, and a incredible handspeed, foot work, and reach advantage.

 

Justin had a fuller head of hair than Rocky. But That was the only edge Justin ever had over Marciano.

 

Lewis is harder to beat than Liston and Foreman. Neither used their reach like Lennox. Liston quit and was legitimately knocked down by guys less than 200lb. Young George could tire and was susceptible to right hands. Old George was susceptible to right hands and was outworked by every remotely decent fighter he ever fought.

 

If you are referring to the Marshall fight I have yet to see proof this ever occurred.If you are referring to the Martin fight Liston was an old dissipated man when Martin stopped him.Id say at that age and given the same sort of inattention to training Marciano who retired at 32,after being dropped by a 39/40 years old light heavy, would likely meet the same result!

 

We never saw Rocky knocked out by a guy 20lb lighter than he was.

Liston was winning 15 or so easy fights from 1965 through to 1969. Most of them three round knockouts. It’s not like his career was wearing him down. He was probably 36-37 years old. Was George Foreman or Larry Holmes or any veteran fighter who was still winning easy fights any easier to knockout at 36 or so than in his prime years?

 

We never saw Rocky fighting in the ring at the age of 40 or perhaps we would have. We never saw Foreman at 36 either.I believe a fighter loses durability with age and ring mileage. A younger Holmes survived a monster shot from Shavers ,but could not weather the storm when older from Tyson

 

If Marciano didnt have one punch power , then no fighter in history had one punch power.

On film:
Layne=one right KO 6th Round
Matthew=one connected left KO 2nd round
Walcott=one right KO 13th round
Walcott=one right KO 1st round

He also dropped Charles on film with single connected punches.

Moore's quote doesnt surprise. On film we see Marciano swarming him with combinations lacking in torque, mostly negated by Moore's guard and movement. That said...Moore was still being damaged and broken down by arm punches that werent fully finding their mark, suggesting tremendous power.

Its like Foreman, who didnt have many clean one punch KOs, but was dishing out tremendous damage with glancing blows not fully leveraged...thats raw power.

 

We never saw Liston fight at the age of 40. He did not exist before 1930 and that is official.

 

where was the mileage slapping around 4-7-1 Willis Earls, 14-16 Dave Bailey, 25-18 Bill McMurray, 21-31 Sonny Moore?

At least Larry Holmes was fighting off young lions for seven years that wanted his title. There was wear and tear beating Weaver, Norton, Berbick, Cooney, williams, snipes and shavers.

By comparison Those guys that Sonny was fighting as an ex champ wouldn’t break a sweat for Leon Spinks.

To be honest to Sonny, Clark and Johnson were good wins. But that’s it. They put no miles on Sonny because he was too good for them.

 

I hope this is put on in jest?? Fortune was never ever rated! Closest he got to boxing at world class before Lewis he was stopped by Buster Mathis jr who was a 7 fight novice back when they fought for gods sake! A couple of fights before he boxed Lennox he was stopped in 2 by 5-3 Patrick smith (whoever he was) The guy barely fought out of Australia and we all know the heavyweight pedigree of your Aussie. He was little and game that's it!

 

Aside from the second Walcott fight, those are excellent examples.

 

I never realised Justin had such an interesting career. Imagine, Pat Smith?

 

Foreman(tie with tyson) was the hardest fight possible for marciano, you can say that you want.. But definitely you are a foreman hater. Excuse me if i ignore any opinion from you about him

 

Ok combatballhang your so certain yet how could you ever know? How do I know anything you say is worth a cheese sandwich? I have never read anything that you wrote that made much sense anyway.

I have a lot of respect for Foreman. He was a great fighter. I have issue with the legitimacy of his second career which was very marketable, although I liked the happy ending.

 

This part of the act probably needs to be shelved chok as no-ones falling for it. Every thread about Liston or Foreman (and plenty that aren't) you are in there posting endless barely concealed venom.

It's fine to have a contrarian view on that end of the scale, just be honest about it.

"combatballhang" hey