Lennox Lewis vs Rocky Marciano

You don’t think Marciano was as deadly as Tua?

Thems the tactics Lewis opted to use for a similar dimensioned (albeit far heavier) foe.

 

A obvious mismatch for anybody who seen both of these men plus rock was a lhw his body wouldn't be able to take any shots from a man who hit that hard and with great tech

 

Big Rocky fan here.

I think he's often underrated, especially his defence and overall movement .

That said, I would give him very little chance again Lennoxx.

Altogether too good, too big, too much reach.


(Still, I have come to think that Rocky AJ is a 50-50 )

 

Chalk and cheese.

 

I jumped the shark on these Marciano threads about 5 years ago.

 

When considering these scenarios, it's helpful to keep a few questions in mind to figure out if you're going to be able to make a good guess, IMO:

1) Did they fight in the same era?

No. Marciano and Lewis did not share an era.

2) Did any of their opponents (or even opponents of opponents) fight in both men's eras?

No. All of the guys Marciano fought (and all of the guys Marciano's opponents fought) were long retired by the time Lennox arrived.

3) How similar in size were the elite fighters each guy fought, and how similar in size are the fantasy fight combatants themselves?

Lennox and Marciano are very different sizes. Arguably different weight classes. Neither of them fought elite opponents the other's size, AFAIK.

4) Pre- or post-steroid & modern training era?

Lewis fought in the post-steroid, post-sports science era. Marciano fought during that 1920s - early 1970s era where elite heavyweights trained in the "old school" traditional manner, had a pretty stable average BMI across decades, etc.

5) Similar film quality?

Lennox fights on relatively high quality color film with good sound. Marciano does not. I suspect this has some effect on the ability to visualize the fight.

6) Similar rules?

It's not as stark as the contrast with Johnson's era, but the 50s may have some differences from the 90s. Including things like refereeing, glove size, scoring.




By all means, all are welcome and encouraged to keep debating this one, but I think the prospects of reaching a reliable conclusion are lower than we would like to think.

 

of all your great points, this to me is the most interesting and powerful.

In my opinion, the post steroid, post sports science era is responsible for a Superheavyweight division.

And I would happily see all champions of this era eliminated from cross era comparisons on the grounds they are Super-heavyweights…and not real heavyweights anymore.

 

Its simple as this rock was a lhw and way to basic for lennox it wasnt anybody he fought like a hw Lennox end of

Also I don't understand the phrase saying rock's video are in bad quality so cant analyze good how is that when people have been able to see him and how others fought that era with what we have for years

 

The film isn't as good as Lennox's film. So it's harder to analyze than Lennox's film.

 

Well how come people have mutiple comments on this site saying how great rock was how can they see that if the video is as bad as you say

 

What I said is that it's worse than Lennox's film. Do you disagree?

 

It doesn't matter if its worse cause you said this i suspect this has some effect on the ability to visualize the fight. Your talking about rock's film

So agian I ask when its mutiple pages on this site saying how great rock was how can they see that if what you said is true how did they come up with he was good when you said his videos are bad

So that means you yourself can't say if Rock is good or bad doesn't it cause the videos are so damaged

 

You think film quality has no effect on the ability to visualize how a fight will go?

 

Lewis by mid to late ko

 

Your skipping over my question that I want a answer for