Lennox Lewis vs Rocky Marciano

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  1. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ah. I forgot "Too basic!" Now my day is complete! :cool:
     
  2. Monnever

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    Complete is watching lennox 1st 2 matches and see how those 2 had more skill and more fluid then people in rock's time.. both were destroyed fast cause they were outclassed so your comment as I said makes no sense..
     
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  3. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You’re a wise man for saving your time lol
     
  4. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Saying Marciano was too small - true, yet he fought bigger guys back then. But would Lennox be that big back in Marciano's time? Maybe Rocky would've been heavier in nowadays, training better as well. It's a bit stupid making such comparaisons.
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

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    What guys did Marciano fight over 6'5" and 240 pounds tho?

    Also the thread takes them as they actually were so speculations on size are irrelevant.

    Lastly, making comparisons is what we do in here no matter how silly they might be.
     
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  6. MAD_PIGE0N

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    But would Lennox be that big in the Marciano's era, but ok, disregarding this? Did he retired literally 1/3 of his opponents? Did he ever send someone's mouth guard with his teeths out of the ring? Like there wasn't shorter heavyweight who did legendary. And just to remind you, as you're asking me "what guys did Marciano fight over 6'5" and 240 pounds" - "speculations on size are irrelevant".

    Lenox got knocked out by fighters shorter than him. Yet, I can't tell if he would loose to Rocky.
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    OK i would like to see a list of the names of the 1/3 of his opponents that The Rock "literally" retired.

    Of course this would have zero to do with how a match between he and Lewis would go and nor would feats of sending mouthguards full of ivory into the 17th row or whatever it may have been in whatever report.

    The guys Lewis was stopped by were 6'2" or more and 231-238 pounds, more than 40 pounds heavier than Rocky. If you get stopped and you are 6'5" there's a fair chance it was by someone shorter.

    My hyperbole detector is in overdrive.
     
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  8. Monnever

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    Why do you people act like you have low comprehension what's hard to understanding about taking fighters how they were on video? You people have did that for years making the topic more complex..,by saying how lennox or Rock would weigh different

    We place them how they were on video and leave it this goes for every h2h match
    So lennox runs though rock easy simple answer...
     
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  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I think the medicine might go down more easily if Marciano's critics also admitted that prime Ali and Liston were small cruiserweights who'd get mangled by Wlad or Fury. Head to head lists with 50s/60s heavyweights not named "Marciano" on them tend to send mixed messages. :cool:
     
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  10. swagdelfadeel

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    Ali and Liston were both considerably bigger and more importantly were more skilled, and had a wider arsenal at their disposal.
     
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  11. mark ant

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    No 5'10 fighter ever knocked out Lewis.
     
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  12. cross_trainer

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    They were bigger than Marciano, but still very small compared to Wlad or Fury. They came only a few years after Marciano, and their opposition wasn't all that different in the late 1950s to 1960s from Marciano's. Both Liston's and Ali's best win on paper in the 50s/60s was arguably Floyd Patterson, a Marciano-sized heavyweight who'd won an Olympic gold as a middleweight. (Liston was old when Ali got him, and may have thrown the second fight. If you want to consider Patterson to be Ali's second-best 60s opponent, that doesn't change the analysis much.) Archie Moore, a former Marciano title challenger, remained a viable contender during part of Ali and Liston's 60s careers. I'm sure the people who know the 50s and 60s scenes better can name other guys who crossed eras.

    I know that there's a common belief that there was some quantum leap that happened in 1956 with the ascension of Floyd, or when Liston took the title in 62, but we're not talking about some enormous gap where a generation of superfighters took over.
     
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  13. MAD_PIGE0N

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    JohnThomas1, well, Wilder annihilated people way lot heavier than he is and was just because of his unique cross. And here's why I mention Marciano's power and the people he retired and injured for life. You should know such details as a boxing expert, right dude?

    Monnever, you compare videos like black and white of 15 fps to color ones of good quality and of color? Of course you're angry of the fact that the topic is complex - simple mind requires simple tasks and simple answers, because the reality is too much for them. Be happy, believe yourself, haha!

    So it sems Rocky had the punch of a person a lot heavier than he was and had the chin very few fighters had, yet some easily make him loose to Lennox or whoever. Mhm, very wise of you, yeah... True experts, I admit, you're right, keep it that way, guys...

    Tell me, was Mike Tyson big enough: 178 cm, while he was like between 97 and 105 kg.? Sure, he isn't the greatest one, but fairly very, very boxer.

    To mark ant: oh, sure, those 8 centimeters that knocked him out are so decisive. Not that he faced such punchers as Rocky or people with a chin that hard.

    Guys, I get it - some of you favor Lennox over Rocky, ok. Others do not. What's the point of a childish, argue getting to a point of an idiotic one?
     
  14. Monnever

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    And only a idiot would favor rock when he never fought anybody as skilled and heavy as lennox,its easy to see lennox runs though him as I said. no trainer or boxer would favor him who has good vision none at all,its nobody who beat or gave len a tough match,who was as small or as out of date as rock,this topic is not odd,its like saying a person could make the team who played NBA in 40s could make the NBA the way they played in 40s and try to make a team in 90s-now no team would pick them this goes for any sport,no sport would pick any person that out of date to make a sport,
     
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  15. Journeyman92

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    Did Lennox ever beat anyone as skilled as Archie Moore or Ezzard Charles?