Lennox Lewis was not an ATG

I agree with you Kmcc, people tend to overrate Lewis because of his wins against a washed up Tyson and Holyfield but alot of fighters here get built up for beating past their prime fighters or 3rd rate hacks

 

Premature stoppage and he avenged the loss, by stoppage.

Avenged the loss, by stoppage.

No, he wasn't.

Almost means **** all, and no he wasn't almost beaten by Bruno.
Bruno was beaten near senseless.

Now even you know that Lewis won at least 9 rounds of that fight

Beat him, handily.

If your aunt had balls, she'd be your uncle. End of his prime years, Lewis TKO 6.

Now this piece makes me think you might be trolling.
Or could I be mistaken ?

Those were his biggest wins.

His best wins were Ruddock (far more decisively than Tyson did), Akinwande, Briggs and Zeljko Mavrovic.


Beat every man he ever faced.

Unified the belts.

Won 16 heavyweight title fights.

Probably the best HW resume since Ali.


Top 4 on MY list.

 

Welcome back !

 

Well , maybe and only maybe vitali would have had him , but it would have taken him more than you mentioned.
the oposite could have also happened and i'm not either man's fan.
look at vitali's fear when he fought a much smaller and out of shape kirk johnson. vitali was less tested against oposition his own size like lewis did : mccline , grant.
I will also want to mention that Lewis 'revenge' at mccall was successful because mccall was on crack at that moment , and still , he finished 1:1 agianst Rahman and mccall , people tend to forget such things.
I do agree that lewis is not an ATG. we must be careful not to consider too much people ATG , because it will make it just another meanless word.

 

I also want to mention that those "over the hill fighters in tyson and holy"
are about lewis' age : holyfiled 3 years older (not that much) , and tyson 1 year younger. that might give rise to the claim that lewis' himslef was 'over the hill' in part of the fights you mentioned , at least against klitschko.

 

Best points of the thread so far.

 

I just wanted to say I go back and forth on Lewis. I think I posted before that he wasn't an all time great (top ten for sure), but now I'm kind of leaning the other way. He's damn decent at worst.

 

No, because THE BEST points are the ones that are better than all others.

Your points just got their ass kicked, so therefore they cannot be the best by default.

Come back when you actually have some knowledge to begin with.

 

against rahman it's not that telling.
mccall was on crack (like someone mentioned in the forum) back then.
you must know lewis couldn't stop mccall.
it should have been a drug-test after/before the fight and declaring it NC. that's what lewis got over mccall for me. and after all , just remember he's still , even on paper 1:1 against both these smaller men. and 1:0:1 over a post-peak smaller evander.
lewis was a good shw , because of his size and his knowledge on how to use it , which also wasn't that brilliant. he retired because he saw the rise of the klitschkos , felt it , and wanted no more of it.
i even think that a peak valuev would have at least given lewis problems. valuev wouldn't have spared him like he did with evander , chagaev , he'd get mad after get hit and then you'd see the real potential of valuev. i do bet on lewis in this one , but surely less decisively than anyone else here , i believe.

 

Hell yeah. Lewis is grossly overrated on this site. He wasn't even the best of his own era - that's Holyfield - let alone top 5 all time. Nice to see there are others who recognize this.

 

Is this thread being used as a kind of flypaper, to keep the ridiculous over the top anti Lewis posters away from the decent threads?

 

So where do you rank Lewis, Zak?

I personally have him over Holyfield, but each to their own.

Why do you believe Lewis is overrated - and why do you think people in general overrate him?

(Not trying to start an argument - just interested to hear your views)

 

Try to imagine him as some with Aspergers - He comes to a decision, then, regardless of overwhelming proof contrary to his first assumption, he lacks the mental capacity of re-evaluating and so will play the same broken record in finitum ad nauseum.

Bless him.

 

Lewis is an All time great, if he isn't then Foreman isnt, Norton isn't , Frazier isn't, Mike Spinks isn't .. Lennox like stated loads of times, beat every one he faced as a pro.. PERIOD...!! and he faced some great boxers along that passage..