Lennox Lewis when he was 'on'..

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  1. Seamus

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    This is the dumbest fukking argument I can remember seeing on this board in some time.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're half right. No he didn't come out guns blazing, but neither was he simply fighting defensively and counter punching. If Ruddock threw a punch Lewis would often move out of range, but at times Lewis initiated the action with jabs and he landed a couple of over hand rights, not as counter punches but as leads. The last of which decked Ruddock in the first round and essentially resulted in the fight concluding in the 2nd round.
     
  3. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can't argue with that comment. I can't believe I got sucked into this.
     
  4. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    You were the aggressor.
     
  5. Vanboxingfan

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    :lol:
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :rofl
     
  7. The Mongoose

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    It wasn't a lead, it was a counter to Ruddock stupidly leaning in and attempting some sort of body jab.
     
  8. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would prefer to think I was the "effective" aggressor. :D
     
  9. The Mongoose

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    -I find that hard to believe.

    -All boxing offense (thrown punches) in the most general sense can be interpreted as aggressive actions. A distinction needs to be made between action and reaction.

    Most of Lewis's offense in this fight was reactions to Ruddock's actions. Can we agree on that?
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course we can't agree on that, because that's not my view of what happened, if it were I wouldn't be having this debate.

    A few punches were thrown as counters but most of the punches thrown by Lewis were jabs and they weren't in reaction to anything Ruddock had done, and he did throw a few lead punches, period end of story.

    But I'm tired and too busy, to keep playing this game so why don't you continue to believe what you wish, and I'll do the same.
     
  11. The Mongoose

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    Lewis jabs were a reaction to Ruddock moving forward into his range and attempting to land punches on him. Not even being able to admit that is pretty telling.

    Its not an issue of semantics, you simply can't admit to how the fight actually unfolded.
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So is it your position that Lewis never took a forward step in the fight? That he never threw any lead punches, and that he never initiated any action at all?

    cause if it is, it's completely inaccurate.
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Thread has reached 100 posts.

    Approximately twelve are about Lennox Lewis when he was "on". :D
     
  14. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As I've said once before, I really don't have a vested interest as to how the fight unfolded. I'm just providing you with my opinion as to what transpired. Obviously since 3 judges watching the same fight often can't agree on what happened, it's a subjective sport. And my opinion as to what happened and who initiated what differs significantly from yours.

    In my opinion they were both trying to be the aggressors in the fight, with Lewis being the effective aggressor and Ruddock being far less effective. So in boxing terms, where aggressor, at least in terms of scoring, means the "effective" aggressor, than Lewis was the aggressor.
     
  15. Vanboxingfan

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    Well when he was "on" the was probably the best fighter ever to step into the ring. And yes, I will use the Ruddock demolition as an example of that.