Lennox Lewis would always have brutalized Tyson.

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  1. duran duran

    duran duran Member Full Member

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    tyson inside 3 rounds as soon as tyson landed flush its over if rahman and mccall could ko lewis with one punch prime tyson definitely would .
     
  2. choklab

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    exactly, could not say it beter myself. At the point he lost to douglas tyson was presented with these openings 99% of the fights he had until then. since nobody could time him. another thing most of those guys were forced into throwing nervous "dont hit me jabs" a fending pawing blow to get away. They were reluctant to really folow through because they were aware how quick tyson fed off the jab. But if you had the angle right and you counter feinted (as douglas did) a good jab worked on Tyson. Douglas took those openings away with the feints and footwork and punished tyson. could lewis beat young tyson to the draw though? I always felt LEWIS needed too much room and time to get off compared to tokyo douglas.


    exactly Tyson had this honed, as a short guy his speed alowed him to do this when he could time evryone else. however, until douglas he had not met anyone who could time him from a distance.
    Once tyson was not getting away with it and geting punished for drawing jabs from douglas he was almost forced into stop using the device that had got him so much sucsess on previous opponents. He relyed on it far too much anyway. His over reliance on this technique really stranded Tyson some what. it took away his positioning to land. even with rooney training him im not sure douglas could not have exploited this.
     
  3. anut

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    dude your so dumb cause don king didnt even promote tyson when tyson fought tillis...
     
  4. anut

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    THIS NON PRIME MIKE TYSON..... WOULD KNOCK LENNOX LEWIS OUT:good
     
  5. Vanboxingfan

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    This is pretty much my take on it too. Either Tyson bombs him out early or Lewis wins either by decision or prolonged beat down.
     
  6. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can never understand these types of replies. What respect did Lewis show Tyson in the first round, he rocked him repeatedly and Tyson even admitted he was hurt after the first round. I simply don't understand this comment. If anything Lewis laid out the blue print to beat Tyson which was to use the upper cut when he came in and lean on him and basically manhandle him.
     
  7. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Timing is everything
     
  8. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson was still learning at that point. Go to 1987 , 88 , he fought much better boxers and they couldn't touch him with the jab.

    I didn't say he was impossible to hit with it, but he was extremely hard to hit flush with almost any shot. Only Pinklon Thomas and Tucker had some success but not much.
     
  9. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Hard fight to figure. Lennox was always a little too big for Tyson. I think Lennox always poses a big problem for Mike. Say Mike when he fought Larry Holmes fought the Lennox he fought later. Mike would have been in for a tough fight. Lennox was just so big and strong with that right hand. Maybe Mike could have used his defense and wore out Lennox, but I am not sure. Lennox would have had to have a bad night. Mike can beat most greats, but when Lennox came up that is when heavyweights were getting really big, and Mike was still in the era of the smaller heavyweights. P4P is a different story. Mike who weighs the same as Lennox knocks him out in a few rounds.
     
  10. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    listen, I have seen many tyson fights, of course he looked better early in his career his opponents were terifiyed of him and they just wanted not to be splattered on the canvas, some did stand up to him but they couldn't handle the agression and speed and power.

    dont tell me he could not be hit with a jab and striaght right I have seen it happen with my two eyes. again he wasnt an easy target, lewis would hit him and then slow him down and he would get hit again and again thats what I see happening. lewis also used a pretty good right uppercut that I have seen land on mike also. tyson didnt react to getting hit to well, it seemed like he got a llitle confused.

    I think you should just agree with me. that will make it easier on both of us.;)
     
  11. Caelum

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    He continued to get better through the years with Rooney. You can really see a difference from his first pro fight to his fight with Tillis which was the first fight he went past 6 rounds. In that fight, Rooney talked about how Tyson was still unsure of himself with his stamina and that basically weighed on his mind and started to hold back. By the time he got to the final round and the fight was closing, Tyson realized it wasn't all that bad at all and his confidence grew from that fight. Rooney said it was a proud moment for him with Tyson. He proved he could do it.

    His next fight, against Mitch Green, also went the distance. However, this time, you could see how much confidence he took into the ring and it continued on all through the fight. He won a clear UD. He was having fun and was even playing around during moments of the fight. And his post-fight interview was classic young Tyson on how things were going for him at that time.

    I've always wondered that without that fight with Tillis, and maybe even Green, would Tyson have been as confident going in against other fighters, even Berbick (because of the experience).

    It was all down to experience with Tyson. He was pushed fast and he learned fast.

    Of course, once he became a bit more inactive when he got with King and his training changed (along with his trainer), and his life-style wasn't the same outside the ring....all hell broke loose and down went Tyson.

    Getting hit flush: At that time, he was better at learning from his mistake and watched out for it. He adjusted. That's all training...continued training at that. Without that training, just a tough chin fighter.


    Also of note, because he was so young, he did look a bit tense in some of his fights but as he matured, as he gained experience, he became more relaxed. This also helped his stamina.
     
  12. Caelum

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    Think about it. He was 5'11, 215, with a short reach and young and still learning. Many of the guys he fought were bigger than him and had more experience. So why were they scared?


    Lewis still has a tendency to paw with the jab. You can't leave it out there for Tyson.

    Lewis had trouble with Mercer. Remember that.

    Yes, the Uppercut is key. However, he did have a solid chin and could come back. He could also make you miss even with the uppercut.

    And for Lewis vs. Tyson: Tyson was long gone as a fighter by then. Not just physically, but mentally it is a huge deal in boxing. If you are not mentally fit, you are not going to take those punches the same. Your mind will tell you this is what pain feels like you better get out.


    I'm not saying it is impossible to hit Tyson, not at all, but it was harder to hit him, especially with the same type of punches (at that point in time). He could also make you pay for it when you did throw.
     
  13. ATP

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    Now thats what im thinking :good



    P.s

    The creator of this thread is on heroin.... :rasta
     
  14. Ramon Rojo

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    There should be a rule against making this kind of stupidly biased polls in ESB.
     
  15. klompton

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    In his prime Tyson would have stopped Lewis in a couple of rounds. Lewis liked a deer in the headlights against a shell of Tyson in 2002 during the second round and was so scared to take chances throughout the fight that Emmanuel Steward was screaming at him.