Lennox of Klitschko vs Marciano Foursome ...

Lewis wasn't overweight against VK. The body's metabolism slows down from your mid 20's/early 30's on. Considering he already weighed 251lbs for his rematch with McCall at age 32 years of age, it's quite remarkable that he was only 4 lbs heavier when he was 37. Apart from the fact we saw that he wasn't slowing down after 6 rounds of intensive action, he doesn't look at out shape, either. Let me know where you see a spare tire:

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For a 37 year old he was in very good shape, and it's what got him through the fight.

 

Lewis was not in the greatest shape, but he still looked decent and the punches he was both landing and taking were insane. He still had a fair number of his faculties about him and fought with heart and determination. I don't even think I'd pick very many all time greats in their prime to stop a peak Klitschko within 6 rounds the way that an aging Lewis did. Not only would I pick that version of Lennox to beat older versions of Walcott, Charles, Moore and Louis, but frankly, I think that he'd still have a good shot at taking Marciano himself.

 

I agree with the sentiment that Walcott has the best chance.

Lewis, confidently triumphs the rest of the opposition fairly handedly (With Moore being the next toughest of the next three).

 

Fair Opinion, hard to disagree with(although I do think rocky clearly takes an aging lewis)...

Just curious...What versions of Walcott and Moore do you think are clearly better at heavyweight than the night they fought Rocky?

 

Lewis weighed 257lb. That is overweight no? The last time he came in above 250lb, he got knocked out by hasim rahman in 5 rounds. In the rematch he showed up at a trim 246lb, and knocked the **** out of Rahman. Coincidence?


Lewis was clearly slower the night he fought Vitali. Especially in his reflexes, and the snap in his punches(although he did land a nice uppercut). I don't know if it was an age thing, a rusty thing(he was inactive for over a year), or being out of shape. He did not look like the same Lennox to me, not even close. He was visibly past his prime in 2003. I think he realized this, and got out while he could...on Top.


Lennox does have a nice build above, but you can see he is not as lean and chizzled as he was when he was younger.

 

I see him stopiing evryone. I see that Walcott has the best chance but i dont think its a big one.

 

I think the bottom line here is Vitali Klitschko is not good enough to beat that version of Lennox Lewis either. Cuse he didn't!!!!

 

I've said for yrs that Lenny Lewis adds weight about as good as it can get........ I've seen Lewis go from 227 pounds up to 256 pounds and only appear thicker all over...... Lewis never looked a fat slob like many 80s WBA chumps or even Riddick Bowe did when not in top form...... To me, that's impressive for such a hulk of a dude........
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I think it is mostly likely Lewis goes 4-0 here. 3-1 possible if Rocky lands his best early in the match.

I don't think Walcott matched up as well as some others do here. Walcott didn't lead much. He liked to counter, feint, and move. While that worked vs guys his own size, Lewis superior range, and fire power, not to mention better fundamentals on defense would take Walcott out of his element.

Lennox Lewis did not lose a professional decision in his life. I do not see him losing one here.

 

I'd give Walcott and Charles a decent chance of beating Lennox of 2003, as they were in their first fights with Marciano. The rematch versions would get steamrolled though.

Any version of Archie Moore would probably get smashed up pretty good by any version of Lennox. Inside of 4 rounds.

Joe Louis of 1951 v Lennox Lewis of 2003 ? I'm not sure about that one.

 

No way would Moore/Charles/Walcott's chin stand up to Lewis's bombs and lennox has the speed to land them either sooner or later. Even though he was old he was still quicker and harder to hit than Rocky, he was still a massive puncher. Some talk as if its easy to outbox Lewis but its never really happened, he may have occasionally been down on the cards before scoring a stoppage against excellent rangy out boxers but even then he wasn't that far behind on the cards.

Louis gets ko'd too, more past it than Lennox aside from the fact I believe Lewis to be the best of the 2

Its not like any of them were much nearer to their prime against Marciano as Lennox was against Vitali either, do we think any beat Lewis prime for prime?

 

I personally think Lewis goes 4-0. It seems to me that if Lewis was able to take flush shots from Vitali, he'd likely be able to from Marciano too. As for which version of Lewis was worse, the one who fought Rahman or the one who fought Vitali, it's really no contest, it was the Rahman version, not just physically but just as important, mentally.

I think if the Lewis who fought Vitali would have had Rahman of the first fight across from him at the Staples center where altitude wouldn't have been an issue, he'd have won rather easily. The big difference is Lewis was determined to go to war against Vitali and his attitude and manerisms mirrored his intent.

 

ehmm...Jersey Joe Walcott?


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ehmm.. Archie Moore?

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Easily Closer to their best. Both in Shape too. Doesn't mean they were better, but they were much closer to their best than Lewis was.

 

Very Fair Post. I think Archie does better than Charles does. I feel Archie had a great style to fight big men, while Charles did not. I could be wrong though.