Lennox's chin - for once and for all

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  1. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe? Maybe? You're not getting off that lightly, my learned friend. :D
     
  2. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    How about "Perhaps"?
     
  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Lewis seemed keen to fight on to me, maybe i need to watch it again.
     
  4. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was (in a groggy sort of way) but whether he could is another story.
    Anyway, guess we'll never know...
     
  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Would you say he was in any worse condition than Holmes vs Snipes or Shavers?
     
  6. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, now the shoe is on the other foot. I'll have to go and watch those knockdowns again.
    My personal opinion is that Lewis should have been allowed to continue, because this was a championship fight and he was the champion. you have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

    Then again, I wasn't the one standing next to him and looking into his eyes...
     
  7. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Lewis was denied his chance to show the world he could come back from a severe KD and win. Who knows, if he wasn't threads like this one might never have existed.
     
  8. barneyrub

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    No more than when he leaned up against Mercante at every break in the Holyfield fight, in the end he was up and in just as if not better condition than Holmes was versus snipes and shavers, as Holyfield was when he got 17 seconds from Bowes knockdown or Barrera when he got 19 seconds from Jones knockdown. But this ref only gave Lewis 8 seconds. Not even a 10 count, hell look at Danny Williams getting up at 9 and a half against vitali and wobbling yet being allowed to continue!
     
  9. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    I disagree with this. Who is to say that someone like Holyfield, Bowe or Joe Louis would not have been stopped had they taken the punch from McCall and the accumulation of punches from Rahman and been in the physical and psychological state that Lewis was in for those 2 fights? Holyfield got nailed by Bert Cooper in round 3 and was all over the place for about 10-15 seconds. Bowe was out on his fight against Holyfield and Louis of course was floored several times and stopped by Schmeling and later by Marciano.

    Moreover, how can you say that Louis's chin never cost him a fight when he was stopped twice? That doesn't make any logical sense.

    Before the McCall fight the consensus seemed to be how solid Lewis's chin was. He had never been visibly hurt until that fight.
     
  10. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    It was fragile.
    Which is why he fought so cautius even though he was usually so much bigger than everyone he fought.
    My God this man is so overated on this forum.
     
  11. barneyrub

    barneyrub Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was more of a push down on the back of his head/kneck, not a legit punch. Though Harold Lederman made a big deal about it at the time.
     
  12. ripcity

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    He got caught by two good punchers.
     
  13. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Not glass, but certainly not solid. "Shaky" would seem to be the most accurate descriptor.
     
  14. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Zakman, this is the first time you haven't classed it "glass" AND you haven't thrown out the "if McCall and Rahman could..." line yet.

    Did your wife beat some sense into you?:lol:
     
  15. MrSmall

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    Lewis never got hit by some prime Tyson meat. His punches in 2002 were looking pretty weak in comparison.
    I think Lewis' chin was average at world class level.