Lennox's chin - for once and for all

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by fists of fury, Aug 15, 2007.


  1. NickHudson

    NickHudson Active Member Full Member

    894
    21
    Apr 13, 2007
    Hmmm, I guess its a compliment to Lewis that his chin gets criticised, because it shows we are comparing him against the highest benchmarks i.e. the greatest HWs that have ever lived.

    I think his chin was good, but that is someway short of 'granite', 'tremendous' or whatever words we might use for Ali, Foreman et al.

    Clearly, saying he has a glass jaw is hyperbole, presumably used to make a point by over-emphasis.
     
  2. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

    1,920
    371
    Dec 30, 2005
    Like he did against Golota, Ruddock, Klitschko, Grant, Holyfield, and Mercer right? Lewis was aggressive in the majority of his fights. In fights where he was cautious he usually did so for a reason, although admittedly against Tyson he was far too cautious for my liking. Aginst Tua though it was the correct tactic. Why get into a brawl with a rock-chinned big puncher when you can keep him on the outside and win the fight comfortably? That's not called cautious, that's called smart. :yep
     
  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

    51,382
    41,346
    Apr 27, 2005
    Another loose anti Lewis post absolutely gunned down in flames.
     
  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

    55,255
    10,331
    Jun 29, 2007
    This content is protected


    This content is protected


    This content is protected
     
  5. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,297
    7,037
    Oct 25, 2006
    That's an interesting way of looking at it.

    I wonder how many will agree?
     
  6. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

    37,070
    28
    Jul 21, 2004
    It is a good chin, its not glass, its not granite.

    Its about as proven as can be, Lewis has taken some good shots in his time. The shots that put him away were unbelievable punches.
     
  7. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,285
    38
    Nov 19, 2004
    McCall caught him right in the middle of a 1-2, that's horribly disorientating on its own. Reminds me a little of the Tyson-Botha KO come to think of it ("Haah! H-ugh...")

    The Rahman one, well, that was a right belter anyway. A 238-pound man hitting you like that is not going to feel good whoever you are. I can't think of many HWs that would've taken that and kept upright. Which is why it was so stupid with the casual attitude, lazy defence and insufficient altitude training, but that's a long story... ;)
     
  8. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

    4,632
    30
    Feb 23, 2006
    You can only take 2 responses IMO:

    Mediocre or good
     
  9. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

    51,382
    41,346
    Apr 27, 2005
    There's a lot of grey area between medicore and good, no?
     
  10. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

    4,632
    30
    Feb 23, 2006

    Correct, but I only wanted that 2 peeving "sides" stop now:

    the one who said he had an iron chin because he survided against big punchers like Tua, Grant, etc.

    and the other side who said he had a glass chin because he was KO´d twice with one punch


    IMO both opinions are hyperbolical and not fair, Lewis did have a good chin, ATG´s-wise he had a mediocre chin when we compare it with the best chins ever at HW...
     
  11. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

    1,920
    371
    Dec 30, 2005
    Absolutely my good man. :good
     
  12. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

    51,382
    41,346
    Apr 27, 2005
    I fail to see much difference between mediocre and glass

    :hey
     
  13. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

    4,632
    30
    Feb 23, 2006
    Wrong. In his era, Lewis had a good chin, otherwise he wouldn´t have a great record he has now. Compared to the ATG´s at HW, than his chin is mediocre...

    big difference!
     
  14. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

    51,382
    41,346
    Apr 27, 2005
    Mediocre? I won't be the one but plenty here could shoot you down on that one. The man lost two fights in his life, by stoppage. One he should have been allowed to go on. ATG's at heavyweight. He was on his ass what, 2 times? How many of your ATG's have been down two times or less? Ali? Frazier? Foreman? Charles? Holmes? Louis?
     
  15. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

    1,920
    371
    Dec 30, 2005
    Why? Because he was stopped on 2 occasions and by a punch in the McCall fight that would have put many of the top 10 consensus Heavyweights of all time flat on their backs as well? Most people's top 10 Heavyweight rankings is not based on their chins, otherwise we'd have McCall and Chuvalo fighting it out for best Heavyweight of all time! So I don't understand your logic of Lewis having a good chin in his own era and it suddenly becoming mediocre in a top 10 ranking of overall skills, abilities and achievements.

    Luigi, no fighter ever got into the top 10 of any division based solely on the strength of their chins. I'm sure you know this so I don't follow your logic.