lennox's resume is hardly better than wlad's

He was a safety first boxer.

He likes to hide behind his long jab all night, clinch, and not take risks in the ring.

He likes nice easy opponents or washed up greats to create his legacy.

 

Oh, so the 37 year old Holyfield that Lewis barely beat in their second fight was head and shoulders above the 37 year old Holyfield that entered into a horribly ugly and embarrassing trilogy against John Ruiz?:!: John Ruiz beat Holyfield more convincingly than Lewis did.

 

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Is it any more fortunate than McCall throwing a wild ounch with his eyes looking down(same with Rahman actually) landing a huge shot on Lewis and KO'ing him.

Essentially a fight stopped by injury, be it concussion or a cut are the same thing.

You get punched in the face,you get hurt,it happens.

 

Debatable. I see that version of Holyfield from the Lewis fight struggling with all of Peter 1, Byrd, Iggy, Haye and Chagaev. Obviously all of Byrd, Iggy and Chags are going to give him huge problems after what Moorer did to a prime version of Holy.

 

Didnt Ruiz go 1-1-1 with Holy?

Also the clips shown werent of Ruiz,they were of Bird who fought Holyfield when he was 40,and iggy who fought him when he was 44!

Whats Ruiz got to do with the argument?

Did either Lewis or Wlad beat him?

 

The second time they fought Evander beat the ever loiving **** out of Moorer.

Moorer was prime in both fights.

 

what a load of nonsence this is.lewis is twice the fighter wlad will ever beput wlad in the ring with lewis and it would be over by 6 rounds.atsch

 

McCall threw a perfectly timed right hand that landed on the button.

Rahman was timing Lewis up with that right hand all night long, and backed Lewis up against the ropes and took him clean out with a right hand. That was great execution.

You seem to be taking "fortunate" and using it as "lucky". They aren't the same thing.

I didn't even say that Lewis was lucky. I said that he was fortunate for that grazing punch to cause a fight ending cut in a fight that he was clearly losing. Any time that a boxer throws a punch, the result isn't luck. They are in the ring to throw and avoid punches.

Definition of FORTUNATE
1: bringing some good thing not foreseen as certain

2: receiving some unexpected good

As I said.. Lewis was fortunate that the grazing punch ended up causing a cut that ended a fight that he was losing.

No, a cut and a knockout is certainly not the same thing. You are lying to yourself if you believe that's the case. Cuts can be very random and certainly don't mean that the guy who caused the cut is a better boxer, or clearly won. If you knock a guy out, then you clearly won. You still may not be the better boxer, but you clearly won the fight that night. If you are losing the fight, and a doctor stops the fight on a cut, while you are losing... and the other fighter desperately wants to fight on... and has shown to that point that he CAN fight on with the cut... that doesn't make you the better man in the ring, and certainly isn't a clear victory like a true knockout.

 

look at both klits opponents none of them apart from david haye has even been in shape hell even lewis wasnt in shape says it all really

 

spot on.

 

You saw those cuts!
What do you think would have happened if the fight had been allowed to continue??

You're talking about the very strong possibility of Vitali receiving injuries he may NEVER have recovered from.

Ive seen plenty of guys take a lot of punishmnet and have the ref step in and stop it,and the guy CLEARLY wants to fight on.

Malignaggi against Hatton for example.

A stoppage is a stoppage.

There will be no * in the history books besides Lewis's victory over Vitali

 

You are living in an alternate reality if you think that there is no * in the history books regarding that fight. Why do you think it is still being wildly debated almost 10 years later?

Also, there is a different between a guy who WANTS to fight on, and a guy who has already proven that he CAN fight on. Vitali was still winning, and still doing just fine. Nasty cut, sure... bad enough to stop a boxing match? Of course it was, but that's beside the point of our discussion. A guy getting battered around the ring is different than a guy with a bad cut. You keep acting like they are the same thing. They may have the same result in the win/loss column... however, they don't show the same thing in the ring.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that you need to watch and study a fight to see what actually happened in the ring to get a better understanding of the fight, rather than just looking at who won or lost.

 

The result of the fight is not debated. Nobody with any boxing knowledge would argue that Vitali didn't deserve to be stopped.