leo santa cruz coward?

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  1. Mexi-Box

    Mexi-Box Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No, Matthysse was under contract too. He was in the same position as LSC. Under an advisor contract for Haymon, and under GB promotional company. This is why Matthysse dropped Haymon. LSC doesn't want to drop Haymon. Hell, LSC named his son after Al Haymon.

    [url]http://www.***********.com/matthysses-manager-were-no-longer-with-al-haymon--86702[/url]

    [url]http://www.badlefthook.com/2013/5/2/4293518/lucas-matthysse-adds-al-haymon-team-boxing-news[/url]
     
  2. box4life11

    box4life11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haymon destroys another fighters reputation suprise.. suprise..
     
  3. theword

    theword Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I didn't read the quote by Rigo but if it's another fighter calling him a coward I think that's acceptable. They're in the same business after all. It's lame when fans do it because they have no skin in the game.
     
  4. Kid Cincinnati

    Kid Cincinnati GOOD BOY NATION Full Member

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    So how did Lucas get out of his contract with Al?
     
  5. box4life11

    box4life11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nobody truly knows the details yet but I can assure you Haymon didn't want MATTHYSSE to leave




    Matthysse is about to be insanely popular now with HBO backing
     
  6. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Nobody who fights for a living is a coward. Not LSC, not Reggie Strickland, nobody.
     
  7. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Then he is a chump. As a world champion YOU tell THEM who the **** you are going to fight, they don't tell you. At the end of the day, Haymon and Schaefer are still rich, LSC ain't.
     
  8. Mexi-Box

    Mexi-Box Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Honestly, I have no idea, but he showed that you can get out of a contract with him. I know for damn sure he's violating the Muhammad Ali Act. They've also leaked his "iron-tight" contract. It looked virtually impossible to get out of, but somehow, Matthysse managed to leave him without repercussions. Honestly, it doesn't look enforceable at all. As I said, he's violating the Muhammad Ali Act, first of all. I think that makes it an illegal contract right off the bat.
     
  9. DanishPride

    DanishPride Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He is not a coward. He is just doing the Mayweather route. Thanks Mayweather btw
     
  10. theword

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    That's not how it works in actuality though. LSC can tell these power players to 'go to hell' and they will tell him: go fight someone for peanuts you ungrateful son of ***** 'cause we aren't going to help get you dates and monies.

    Haymon, Schaefer et al hold all of the advantages, have more money, aren't limited to a few scant years in the game and have connections at the networks (all of them).

    A fighter has very limited power outside when he is ACTUALLY in the ring (as in: gloves on, boots laced, mouth guard in). Everything up and and after that the big time agents, promoters and managers have the upper hand.

    There are a few exceptions. Floyd, Pac, Wlad...maybe Canelo? LSC isn't on that rarified list.
     
  11. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It is that way if you take a chance and make it that way, That's why Mayweather and DLH started working for themselves. Haymon is LSC's employee, Arum is Manny's employee, the promoter WORKS FOR the boxer, not the other way around. If they want the fight they need to say so.
     
  12. Anima

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  13. bluzi

    bluzi Active Member Full Member

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    To your logic , its OK to match up your boy LSC with a tomato can which he can HURT as much as he want like a punching bag and you enjoy it. "look at LSC knockout this guy , boxed his face off" you dont concern yourself with the journyman health , but when your boy can get hurt , all of the sudden "my health comes firsts" and **** like this.
    listen i understand the boxing is hurting , but he does it to others which are not even close to his level , this is why ppl call him a coward, its easy to pray on the weak and beat them up like a bully , you are expected to fight the best if you say you are the best , sorry thats how it is , you can get some tomato cans between big fights , but when you only bully low leve fighters thats cowardence , like highschool bully.
     
  14. RODNEY MORASH

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  15. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    LSC has gone from being one of the most exciting potential superstars 2-3 years to a figure of ridicule. His failure to meet his peers ...his fellow top level 122lbers...has highly angered boxing fans, and quite rightly.
    Today at the start of 2015, Leo's credibility is in tatters, Im afraid.