leo santa cruz coward?

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  1. Kid Cincinnati

    Kid Cincinnati GOOD BOY NATION Full Member

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    You're determined to discredit him and his record, in spite of all the facts to the contrary. That's your agenda, so fine. You haven't refuted anything I've said.
     
  2. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Whether it is his managements fault or his own, his failure to meet his peers has hurt LSC. A lot.
     
  3. Arranmcl

    Arranmcl Arran Full Member

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    Leo is a coward. 100%.
     
  4. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    See what I mean?......^
     
  5. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everybody got choices,Lucas made his and Leo made his. What's the difference?
     
  6. Mexi-Box

    Mexi-Box Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Well one, Matthysse, doesn't go around saying he wants to fight the best and does f*ck all about it. Matthysse actually fought the best. LSC is most likely going to be fighting another TBA.

    LSC made his choice, and it's to duck the best in his division.
     
  7. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    LSC is more of a Mexicant than a Mexican....
     
  8. theword

    theword Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ostensibly sure but look at it from LSC point of view.

    1) LSC is a 'name' but he didn't win gold, he's not on a wheaties box, I don't know what kind of endorsements he has but I'm not seeing him on Subway commercials.
    2) He has a very limited career window. He's done better than most but how many short years does he have left to make money enough to carry him into retirement?
    3) Haymon works for LSC but Haymon doesn't need Leo. Haymon has a stable of fighters and can drop Leo if he feels like it. He can black ball him and keep him off cards if he feels slighted or one of a thousand other things.

    It's very, very easy to criticize someone for 'selling out' until you're the one with that choice. LSC is in the entertainment business and Haymon is the boxing equivalent of a big time movie producer to Leo's medium sized box office draw.

    I understand why a fighter would kowtow to a big time manager/promoter. The names you listed are the exception, not the rule.
     
  9. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Coward is overstressing it. Leo is avoiding the toughest fights.
     
  10. Tancred

    Tancred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Coward is to strong a word
     
  11. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lucas is singing the same song that Leo is and he ain't fighting nobody. His last two fights were against B class fighters, same as Leo. They ask for who they want but they take what they are given until the good fights come along. It's a process and neither of the fighters has much of a say. Lucas or Leo are not duckers so all that ducking talk is the ramblings of an uninformed mind.
     
  12. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's a rich coward though.

    Rigos just jealous cause he signed with the wrong team.
     
  13. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Santa Cruz is not personally a coward, but I think he's not the sharpest tool in the shed and is inclined to listen to others who make excuses for him not to fight Rigo.

    I think he knows he would lose but would take the fight anyway. His dad and Haymon are the ones not letting it happen.
     
  14. killerD

    killerD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    leo is a coward simple as that.he refuses to test himself against the best.this is a sport fans pay money to watch the best fight each other no one wants to watch mismatches.
     
  15. killerD

    killerD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    take your bullsh!t somewhere else its not the fans job to care about how much money a fighter makes.you sound like a boxing manager not a boxing fan.Patterson took the fight against liston because he has the heart of a true champion unlike leo.this shows me leo in his heart knows he cant beat rigo.leo will be fighting tomato cans on undercards for the rest of his career and no one will give a sh!t about him.:deal