Leon Spinks vs Jimmy Young

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  1. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. he grant

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    The Jody Ballard bout followed Young's career win v.s. Foreman and was part of a nationally televised prime time showcase ... Holmes fought Sanford Houpe and Norton fought in the main event ... another top heavyweight fought as well but I forget, possibly Lyle ... the point is that this was a huge fight for Young on national television coming off the Foreman victory with him poised for another title bout and half way through the fight he's losing to a fringe contender at best ... that was Jimmy Young ... he was a spoiler, a defensive specialist with decent speed and a good chin but he very often fought down to this opponent's level and was always troubled by guys that threw lots of punches with speed ... he was most often better at making another guy look bad than having himself dominate anyone .. it's just the type of fighter he was ...
     
  3. tommygun711

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    early on jody won rounds. then young completely took over. i think you didnt watch the same fight as me
     
  4. MRBILL

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    I'm game... I say the motivated Feb. 1978 Leon Spinks of 197 ripped pounds of muscle tears into a defensive Jimmy Young of that very year and out-works the more seasoned veteran....

    Of course Young was more skilled than Spinks ever was, but Spinks had it together in 1978... Yes, Yes, Leon was schooled by Ali in the Sept. '78 rematch, but Ali was in great shape and motivated to regain the title... Spinks was tuff / game down in New Orleans, but totally out-classed by Ali...

    Had Leon fought Jimmy in 1978, I'm guessing Leon Spinks would win on aggression and work-rate alone... Jimmy Young was often lazy / sluggish....

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  5. tommygun711

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    If Young is in his prime (75-77) he will school leon. Leon will come bobbing and weaving in and Young will pick him off with a few shots and then hold him. Young seriously hurt Lyle, Norton, & Foreman, so I'm sure he would be able to keep leon off and tie him up when needed.

    I guess I can see a scenario where Leon outworks Young to a decision, but the only way that would happen is if Young was out of shape/unmotivated. People like to forget that post Norton, Young had no motivation for the sport anymore because he was always robbed and turned to drugs.
     
  6. Legend X

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    I would actually like to forget the stinkeroo challenge Young produced against Ali in 1976.
    But it's ingrained in my memory, like a **** stain.
     
  7. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Ali didn't do **** either.
     
  8. MRBILL

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    No, neither Ali or Young did much in the ring back in '76, but Ali still was the seemingly bigger, stronger and more aggressive ringman that night... Young boxed well and offset Ali to a degree, but Young never threatened Ali or seemed willing to engage Ali in a real fight... Ali being the champ, got the nod on my card after 15 rds of hi-tech sparring...

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  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    as usual BILL kipping it RILL .
    But I disagree about Jimmy Young being more skilled , punching is a great part of d SKILL , and of what i've seen of Leon which wasn't much (saw him vs Qawi and Holmes i believe ) he really wasn't bad (at least not vs Holmes) in terms of SKILL .
    How exactly could Jimmy Young beat n agressive fighter who could pressure him and keep him @ bay if he barely punched ? I read that Foreman was drained against him (despite i can't think of a reason 4 a HW 2b drained other than his trainers but also his own idiocy) and that it was another very hot time & place . I watched that fight , but dehydration & heat r not very visible on film .
    Other agressive fighters Jimmy Young fought ? Shavers*2 (and Shavers stopped him once and deserved 2 win d rematch as well) and Ron Lyle , 10 rds *2 , and IDK if Young deserved 2 win those decisions .
     
  10. tommygun711

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    he did. watch the videos.
     
  11. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even if he did i think Ron Lyle was hindered due 2 his advanced age in most of his proffessional fights , and people never take it in2 consideration . Only d heroes r allowed 2 get old . D bad guys r always prime and all of their losses count . As much as 1 is more (of a) hero , d quicker he gets older and past his prime . Lyle was 34 and then 35 vs Jimmy Young .
     
  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    yeah, kip it rill bill.
     
  13. tommygun711

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    Lyle started boxing late, so there is no way he was more aged than Young was. Lyle was prime in both fights. He tried to stop Young, Young was just too slippery and slick.
     
  14. Senor Pepe'

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    Tommy G,

    I remember the Jimmy Young -Jody Ballard fight,,,,,,,,,'Night of the Heavyweights'

    Jimmy vs. Jody,,,,,,,,,,,put everybody to sleep.

    I just couldn't score it for Jimmy, as I liked him, and was waiting for him to do
    something.

    40-Minutes of 'modified sleep-walking'.

    I'll still go with Leon Spinks over Jimmy in 10-Rounds though.
     
  15. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what a great reasoning . so if my uncle'll start boxing @ a fresh 46 yirs of age , he wud b just as young , fresh and spry like a 1985 Maik Tyson . (My uncle is rili tyson's age , i believe they were even born d same month , but he never wore gloves nor did he enter a ring as far as i know , probably just a few street encounters back in his day , nothing more , he doesn't even have d wear & tear of
    taison's amateur days)



    regarding Young's slikkness : i wonder how slikk he'd b if their ages were reversed in both of their fights , just a matter 4 thought