Leon Spinks vs Johannson & Schmeling

Michael would beat both them without a doubt

 

Would he beat Louis or Patterson?

 

Did Norton and Frazier beat Ali? Did they beat Foreman?
Your logic makes no sense

 

Schmeling would break him down and stop him late imo, around the tenth.
Ingo, could go either way. Spinks maybe stopped early, walking into a blasting right hand. Or maybe Spinks energy put s the swede under pressure and takes him the distance, maybe even a tight decision win for Ingo??

 

This is not my logic, I just asked.

What makes you believe that Michael Spinks would beat Max Schmeling "without a doubt"?

 

Leon and Max is a mismatch,, he busts Leon up badly. I also doubt Leon can smother Ingo and runs into a bid right hand. Mr. Magoo is right, Leon is somewhere around Scott Ledoux level. Leon beating Ali was simply a case of the cherry pick gone wrong,, Ali had slipped more than people realized, down to Leon's level.

 

Michael Spinks beats Max Schmeling.? The guy who at his best beat Joe Louis? I seriously doubt that

 

You know perfectly that you was trying to make a point insinuating that spinks would not beat Louis or Patterson and my answer is that even if this is truth still is irrelevant here.

And the reply for your question.
Michael was better

 

Could you break it down though? What makes you believe so? Outside of usual "Schmeling is overrated" talking?

 

Mm... To me Michael looks more versatile,he was much taller 6'21/2 , faster,he has the frame to carry 190-200 pounds perfectly a natural cruiser and he looks more skilled than Max too. Even 1985 Larry Holmes is much better than Schmelling

 

Fair enough, although Max was quite versatile himself - he could be a pressure fighter, counter puncher than fought on a backfoot and even outside boxer.

I mean, there is 4 cm difference between their listed heights. How is that a huge difference?

Max carried over 190 lbs extremely well too. He was over 190 lbs against Louis and 188 lbs against Sharkey. He wasn't smaller than Spinks.

I'm not sure, Max had better right hand and his defense is underrated. I'm high on both, there is no reason to make such a bold statements.

You're just using double standards here. You said himself that I shouldn't compare Spinks to Louis and use it as an argument here. So don't do the same thing.

 

Why not? Billy Conn was beating Louis until he got caught late, would you say Conn has a more impressive resume than Michael Spinks? I still rate Louis as a top five all time great heavyweight but that doesn't mean he was unbeatable. Bottom line, he had problems with guys that could move and Spinks was one of those guys. Regarding Spinks beating Schmeling, I absolutely believe he had the talent and skill to beat him.

 

What i mean is that Holmes could box and could punch, i don't know a single thing that max could do Fine and Holmes could not make better

 

Schmeling was certainly a better puncher, at least it's backed up by both records.

 

I would say that it is debatable, schmelling fought overall worse/smaller guys than Holmes did.