Leonard-Duran 2 and 3 are incredibly underrated wins

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  1. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i dont think leonards win in the second fight has been underrated ,the third fight wa a duran no show but that is not leonards fault
     
    Mr Butt, Jul 20, 2009
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  2. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What was the scoring on the first fight, after eight? Close to the scoring of the second? I don't believe Duran was that far behind on the cards in the second fight. Well within striking range to come back. The fight was only half over.
     
    la-califa, Jul 20, 2009
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  3. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The scorecards in Leonard-Duran II:

    Mike Jacobs 66-68, Jean Deswerts 66-68, James Brimmell 66-67, all for Leonard.

    I don't think Duran was even doing too bad in the round he quit in. He had just landed a couple of solid punches before calling the fight off.
     
    TheGreatA, Jul 20, 2009
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  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    The scorecards look off, some rounds were close, but Leonard was controlling them and outboxing Duran round on round, I couldn't find any to give Duran I don't think (cant find the card I scored on now). Duran had just landed a few good shots when he quit, maybe it was his last roll of the dice, or a case of 'I'll go for it because I'm tooling this fight off anyway'
     
    PowerPuncher, Jul 20, 2009
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  5. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    If you never had Duran winning at least one round, you have a problem. There was one round at least, that he won clearly.
     
    Robbi, Jul 20, 2009
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  6. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You had Leonard pitching a shutout?!! PLEASE!!!
     
    la-califa, Jul 20, 2009
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  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i think Manny Stewarts explanation makes the most sense its right at the end of the chapter i think.
     
    GPater11093, Jul 20, 2009
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  8. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Which? I didnt think Duran had any clear rounds, there were about 2 that were close that he could have had
     
    PowerPuncher, Jul 20, 2009
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  9. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Can't mind. 4th or the 5th. But he did take one round clearly.
     
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  10. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  11. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Leonard schooling Duran in the rematch is perhaps the biggest myth in boxing history..Ray was doing a lot of moving, a lot of clowning, but not a hell of a lot of punching and certainly not much landing until right at the end.

    Duran didnt come into the rematch in the same shape or frame of mind that he did in the first..I think thats as clear as crystal. But you cant hold that against Ray, he came in good shape, changed his strategy and frustrated the hell out of Roberto..but he didnt school him..no way.
    It is still a very good victory for Ray and I dont really consider it tainted at all. Still one of the great wins at the weight.

    The 3rd is essentially meaningless in my eyes.
     
    WhataRock, Jul 20, 2009
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  12. Gesta

    Gesta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The fight that counts Duran won, when both were at there best.
     
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  13. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Their third fight was horrible. Personally I wouldn't call it a good win for Leonard at all.
     
    fists of fury, Jul 21, 2009
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  14. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only from Ray Leonard. Coming from him, I believe it. Thankfully his luck ran out in his next fight in which he was exposed, beaten, and humiliated, then forced into retirement.

    It would have happened a bit sooner but he couldnt bring himself to face the legit titlist Nunn.
     
    redrooster, Jul 21, 2009
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  15. DINAMITA

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    Probably the best definition of Leonard-Duran 2 that I've read yet. :good
     
    DINAMITA, Jul 21, 2009
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