Leonard-Duran No Mas documentary

I have very little interest in the No Mas fight. Duran had lost considerable skill by that time being 13 years into his career. The 1st fight was a classic and I truly believe after numerous views that it should've been a draw. Leonard did everything to Duran we never saw anybody do successfully. Go toe to toe, stick n hold and stick n move. walked Roberto down consistently and jabbed him all night long with a vengeance. However Leonard's negative body language and Roberto celebrating after rounds that were a near draw persuaded the judges.

 

The no mas fight was an immediate rematch only months after the first. It's not SRL fault Duran blew up in weight. Being discplined is very important in boxing. Guys like Hopkins and PBF have it.

 

Touche ! But let's face it, Durans movement was much different in the 2nd fight! when it goes it goes quickly. But a fraction of this guy beat Iran Barkley and nearly made a fight with Mugabi!!

 

Of course its not Leonards fault, though he knew Duran was grossly out of shape when he lured him in with a near 10 million offer, 10 times the ammount Duran had ever made for a fight.

You're just like Leonard, wanting full credit but admitting he did'nt beat the same "inshape" Duran that fought him in Montreal.

Who gives a **** that Duran was'nt professional enough to walk into the ring in New Orleans fully in shape. The fact of the matter is Leonard made an out of shape Duran quit.

If you want to give full credit to a fighter for beating an out of shape Duran thats your perogative.
I myself see Duran start to drag his punches the round or two right before he quit.

Imo, Leonard himself was sensing it, and Duran himself knew that in the shape he was, his reflexes were not what they should be and if he did'nt quit right where he did, Leonard was about to commence not only embarrasing Duran with his reflexes and sharper punches, but maybe even likely a beatdown if Leonard would have had the balls to go that way.


"WOW WOW!! Did you all see Leoanrd clown and beatdown an out of shape Duran?"
"Incredible, Leonard has to be the greatest of all time for beating such version of the great Duran!" :nut


Just listen to yourself Pimp, you want to enhance Leonard's legacy by pointing to him beating a fighter that you yourself admit was'nt in the same shape he was for Montreal.

The reality is that they fought only once when both were prime and ready and Leonard himself admits he got beat by Duran that night.

I give Leonard full credit for not caving in and fighting back under the pressure Duran laid out that night. Alot more credit than he deserves for beating the version of Duran in New Orleansl.

 

If SRL would have fought like he did in the rematch for the first fight Duran probably would've quit then as well. Duran can't handle movement and is frustrated by it. Duran quit he's still haunted by it to this day. The evidence is the No Mas documentary it will forever be a black mark on his legacy.:deal SRL made the dude quit he wasn't hurt he wasn't getting the **** beat outta him he quit because of frustration of getting clowned beaten to the punch and the fact that he couldn't land on SRL and couldn't do a damn thing about it.:deal That's what you Duran apologist have to live with NO MAS, deal with it..:hi:

 

I think the doc proves that is was Leonard who was haunted by the No Mas fight and not the other way around.

 

I dont know what else you want when you yourself admit Duran was'nt in the same shape for New Orleans.

A fighter thats in shape is a fighter that will by far be quicker, faster, and alot sharper in whatever he attempts to do in the ring.

A poster in a different thread talking about this documentary said it best, "when he saw Duran come out for the first bell in New Orleans and touch gloves with Leonard, he knew right then it was'nt the same animal from Montreal."
Point blank!

 

Duran looked sad and clearly delusional in that doc. Refusing to come to grips with the fact that he couldn't hit SRL with radar and he was being clowned and beaten to the punch. Instead he's sticking to the same old excuses that him and his fans love to throw out there. SRL just wanted his due from Duran, because it was his actions in the ring that caused Duran to quit, which was the case.

 

One could easily say it wasn't the same SRL in the first fight. If he came to stick and move he would've clowned Duran and made him quit in the first fight. Do you see how that works? You can't have it both ways. Duran quit whether he was in shape or out of shape it's irrelevant. Stamina is important in boxing we've seen guys fade down the stretch in fights and lose. If you're not in shape too bad it's still a loss.

If it helps you sleep better thinking that an "in shape Duran" would have had any answers for that SRL then so be it. It still doesn't take away the fact that he quit and is a quitter in the worst way. It's one thing to quit from taking a beating another one when you quit because you're frustrated. It shows a lack of mental toughness and a bully mentality. When the going gets tough or the fight doesn't go as planned QUIT!:deal

 

Why would anyone pull ONE fight out of well over a hundred an make a generalized comment like that. You obviously hate Duran so much that you give him no credit whatsoever for having more KO's than SRL or Mayweather have had fights. I'm pretty sure if either of them had fought 119 fights there would be blemishes on each of their records, and really anyone who's ever watched boxing knows that Duran was as hard nosed as they came.

 

Bingo!

It was Leonard who seeked ESPN to help him do the documentary.

Duran who did'nt have to, was nice enough to get allow himself to get interviewed.

Leonard in the documentary said he's been bothered all these years for answers as to why Duran quit.
He feels he never got the full credit for beating Duran that night.

I say, how can he get the credit when he himself admits he did'nt face an "Inshape" Roberto Duran. That he pressed quickly to get the rematch done at the earliest possible date because he knew Duran was undisciplined and out of shape still celebrating Montreal.

Duran's story has never changed. After New Orleans he had said he had cramps in the ring that night from something he ate.

In the documentary he said he drank some hot coffee before entering the ring. That I had never heard Duran desrcribe before, but he went more into detail in this documentary.
I got from it that it was that hot coffee along with what he had eaten during the course of the day that upset his stomach.

I mean what is the poor man to say, "I quit because I was out of shape and it was'nt going to get better for me if I had continued." ???

No fighter is going to put it in those terms.

Whether the cramps story is fabricated by Duran or not, both Duran and Leonard admit in the documentary that Duran was partying it up after Leonard and went into New Orleans not in the same shape from Montreal.

They're both in agreeance with that fact and thats all that really matters to me as a boxing fan. Everything else is irrelevant, Duran may or may not have had cramps, does'nt really matter. He was out of shape and its that fact that caused him to not be able to fight to his capabilities.

It was only the 8th round. The fight had'nt been fought in anywhere's the fast pace that was fought in Montreal and there was Duran allready fatigue'd and dragging his punches.

 

Wat is this guy on the 2nd fight was 5 months after thr first. Wat a ******

 

bull

 

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