Leonard or Ali

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  1. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who was the better fighter p4p?

    I think all would agree Ali is greater and nearly everyone rates him higher on resume but looking at both individually, who was better p4p?
     
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  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Ali.
     
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  3. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    It's close, but the way I see it Ali was at a disadvantage and underdog in some of his most important fights (Liston I and II and the Foreman fight, also 3-4 yrs of his prime wasted away) while Leonard kinda fought and won on his terms or with a good advantage (Made Hagler wait for yrs and fought him right after Hagler had a grueling war with Mugabe and also losing to a slightly past his prime lightweight Duran where Srl also had physical advantages over him.) Regardless, I still think Srl made some of the best figgts in history and you could expect that when a top 5 welterweight like Leonard faced the best lightweight and arguably the best middleweight of all time. Hearns was no doubt his best at 154, tho Srl has a win over him at 147, its clear Tommy is his equal the way he beat Srl at 168 and got robbed. I have Ali slightly ahead of Leonard.
     
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  4. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maybe a fairer comparison might be SRR rather than Leonard.
     
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  5. frank_hammer

    frank_hammer Active Member Full Member

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    Ali
     
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  6. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Benny Leonard was never regarded as pfp # 1 in his time.
     
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  7. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gotta go with Cassius Clay, But its close...
     
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  8. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    Ali, in both talent and resume, no question

    Leonard is still a worthy comparison though, a great fighter and a legend
     
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  9. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Why don't people post these kind of threads in the classic forum??? It's what it's there for......
     
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  10. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Scale down a man who can move the way Ali did at 6'3 220 lb and you have an even quicker more fleet footed version, Ali no question.
     
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  11. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Ali

    But SRR is #1.
     
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  12. papolamuerte

    papolamuerte Yo soy La Muerte! Full Member

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    For my likes, I go with Leonard. I used to love to watch him fight, smooth as hell, made it look so easy. The combos he gave Hearns during mid-fight were stuff of legends.
     
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  13. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    leonard...the originator of stipulations shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as ali.

    even though leonard has wins over duran, hearns and hagler...i rate all three of them higher on my atg list.
     
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  14. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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  15. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nobody was regarded as p4p #1 in Benny Leonard's time lol
     
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