Leonard says Hearns was his biggest rival AND toughest opponent

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  1. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Leonard has said that Hearns was a bigger rival to him than Duran or Hagler as he & Tommy were both 147 lbers & seeking domination in that particular weight class where as they had to step up to Hagler`s weight to challenge him & Duran had to do likewise vs them.

    Leonard also says that his toughest fight was vs Hearns in 1981, even tougher than Hagler & Duran in montreal.
    Ray feels he fought with too much emotion vs Duran & never fought his own fight & vs Hagler he had nothing to lose but everything to gain.
    Ray says the fight with Hearns was the ultimate because he did try & fight his own fight & it was for the undisputed best 147 lber on the planet & both were young, hungry & 1 fight away from being boxings no1 superstar.

    As for the fight itself, Leonard admitted his legs felt like jelly & he had to dig down further than he ever thought possible to overcome Hearns.

    Anyone suprised ? Im not really, he could have picked any one of those guys as his toughest & it would be believable.

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  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wouldn't doubt it considering Hearn's even in losing basically ended Leonard's career in any consistent way shape or form.
     
  3. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not surprised at all. I don't think too many welterweights ever beat Tommy that night. It took everything Leonard had to beat Hearns that night. There were several shifts in momentum and several shifts in strategy. Great, great fight. Leonard pretty much gives Hearns the second fight.
     
  4. SorceryatCaesar

    SorceryatCaesar Leonard-Hagler author Full Member

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    Hearns weighed in at 145, which cost him in the end. NOt sure why, but they left him in the steam room too long. He was completely dehydrated, and after 12 rounds his legs were gone. If Hearns had weighed in at 147 he quite possibly has the stamina to go 15 and hold his lead.
     
  5. pryorgatti

    pryorgatti Active Member Full Member

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    He also said the Benitez fight was the most difficult
     
  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I have evidence from Hearns himself which is totally the opposite of what you said above. He said he was fine, he never struggled with the weight, and he wasn't tired down the stretch. I'm unsure if he was badly weight drained. It's confusing as the vast majority of people think so, but not when it comes from the horses mouth.

    If you watch the start of the 14th round Hearns actually moves laterally, has a spring about his step, then only when Leonard catches him along the ropes does his legs give way. Leonard's punches caused Hearns' stamina to evaporate rather than weight problems IMO after watching the fight. Hearns was doing well up until the 13th round, and guess what happened during that round, Leonard hurt him. As I said earlier during the start of the 14th round Hearns was not fighting flat-footed up until being caught along the ropes when Leonard hit him, raised his hands in the air, then went after him. He wasn't quite firing on all cylinders as he was 3-4 rounds previously as the 13th round assualt took a lot out of him.
     
  7. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Watch the start of the 14th round. Hearns IMO doesn't show any signs of fatigue until Leonard catches him along the ropes. Infact he does remarkably well considering he was furiously assualted during the previous round. He's on his toes constantly moving, firing out jabs, and dictating the pace of the fight. Take into consideration this is the 14th round of the fight. Not the signs of a fighter struggling with the weight down the stretch. His recovery powers are impressive, until he gets caught again.
     
  8. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great analysis! You know I've been trying to tell them as much but for some reason people don't like hearing it.

    IMO, Tommy at 147 changes the complexion of this fight and wins-on points.
     
  9. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm surprised he didnt mention Terry Norris, the guy who murdered him in the ring.
     
  10. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some fighters can weigh in on the same day, and not be affected, while others can't. Hearns would have been huge if he had an extra day to re-hydrate.

    Also, some people have suggest SRL "roided" up for the second Leonard-Hearns fight......though this has never been proven.
     
  11. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Yeah, they should have called the fight off and told the punters to "come back tomorrow".
     
  12. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Complete and total bull****. Hearns looked fantastic throughout the bout, even in the late rounds. The only times he looked off in the fight was when Leonard's fists were pounding his face. I'm tired of this bull**** excuse.
     
  13. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Yeah, I saw that happen too. But in fairness to Rooster, he's always had sympathy for the two pounds that Colbert needlessly lost against Hagler and was way ahead until he fell onto Marv's fist, breaking his jaw and he himself admitted that 'baldy wouldn't have had a chance' if the fight took place the next day when 'Super Mike' could weigh in at 160.
     
  14. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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  15. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Looks like Roosters got a new pal

    :lol: