Leonard v Hagler at 160 in the early-mid 80s - please vote and comment

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  1. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is what's always bothered me, leaving me with that ripped off feeling that I first felt in November 1982.

    I was eagerly looking forward to a middleweight title defense now that he was "back" :rofl. A defense vs micheal Nunn would have been great in 88/89 but Rau just seemed to have no desire for
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    and the press never pressed him either :huh

    I think it would have been interesting to see what would have transpired pitting Sugar against the young wiry middleweight with the killer left uppercut.

    He was so fast and slick in there with Kalambay. I will never forget how Mike stepped in with that long left flush on the chin lf slick but not as quick Kalambay, landing with a loud thud.

    Personally, I think a couple of quick Micheal Nunn lefts to the temple and he could dispose of leonard early.
     
  2. Gesta

    Gesta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah it's a great shame that some bout's are not made and that the fighters that take on all comers (abit sometimes lose) are somewhat punished for it and the fighters that "choose" who they fight are sometimes rewarded, as us the fans are the ones that lose out.
     
  3. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    Hagler wins on a good decison over 15.By the way, didn't Gavilan get dropped a couple of times at 147, while Leonard none?
     
  4. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Hopkins would outpoint both Hagler and Leonard at middleweight. :good

    I think if you were to make up a fighter with the attributes to beat Hagler, it would be Hopkins. While Hopkins doesn't have serious power, thats not going to matter anyway when it comes to Hagler's supreme durability.

    Tall, rangey, counter-puncher, speedy, tactically tuned, good on the inside, quick feet and hands, and durable himself. B-Hop all the way.
     
  5. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I think Hagler stops Taylor at middleweight. :good
     
  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Nice one. Same here. :good
     
  7. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Id pick both Hagler & Leonard over Hopkins personally, both on points.
     
  8. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Leonard to beat Hopkins at middleweight. You're a brave man.
     
  9. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    guys like Hopkins were dime a dozen in Hagler's day-too average. Hagler would eat him alive. So would Thomas Hearns and every other top ranked middleweight. I'd give him a chance against Leonard though
     
  10. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Micheal Nunn probably beats X. Kalmabay too. Those two were special
     
  11. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Hagler would get eaten alive if he fought Hopkins like he did against Duran. Simply no realistic scenario conjures up to the conclusion that Hagler would've beat Hopkins.
     
  12. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    My guess is that you haven't seen a prime Hopkins at middleweight. Better than Minter, Roldan, Hamsho, etc, and certainly far better than the former lightweight who took Hagler the full distance as a middleweight.
     
  13. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler would handle him with ease, probably by tko. One handed weight drained Roy Jones had little problem

    I scored it 9 rounds to 3 for Roy. How did you score it?
     
  14. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    The Hagler who was taken the distance and made to look ordinary against a former lightweight would have beaten Hopkins? You really need help. Seek medical attention sooner rather than later.

    Hopkins was years away from his prime in 1993. The man never started to come into his own as a fighter until the very late 90's. Do you actually know when fighters are peaking and at their best? Next you'll be telling me that Hagler was at his best for the Leonard fight.
     
  15. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i seen him. In fact I chose him over Trinidad.

    In Hagler's time tho I dont see him winning many matchups. Roldan would be too much for him. Sibson would outpoint him with ease. Hamsho would outpunch him the way he did Benitez. Obel would put him on the canvas a couple times en route to a decision win. Roy jones did it with one hand and weight drained. How hard can it be?

    I'd give him a decent chance with minter though