Leonard vs. Duran--Stomach Cramps?

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  1. warchild

    warchild Member Full Member

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    It was a combination of three things IMO....

    1. Duran ate too much after the weigh-in and probably did have some abdominal pain.

    2. Duran was frustrated, not because he was being out-classed, but because Leonard wasn't doing anything even close to boxing and the crowd was buying it....being undertrained and fatigued could have added to the frustration.

    3. Duran believed that if he refused to continue, the fans and the media would turn on Leonard for using the tactics that he did, and a rubbermatch would be forthcoming.

    All this was Duran's fault.

    Having stated the above, I don't think that Leonard was winning the match by much, and it was still very winable for Duran....he shouldn't have surrendered....I don't think that Duran viewed it as surrendering at the time, but that's what he did.
     
  2. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dundee gets a lot of credit for this one, Duran was a party animal and after his win in june, he was drinking and hanging out in N.Y. club Victor's Cafe a well known COKE dealer hangout, Dundee insisted on a Nov. rematch and if Duran did not agree they would take there huge American Leonard $$$$$ into a Hearns fight. Duran agreed but after a summer of burning himself out could not get into the proper condition by Nov. and knew he was ill prepared that evenning Thus No -Mas and another reason Angelo Dundee was a value
     
  3. smokin joe

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    exactly, duran had to lose 50 lbs in 7 weeks, his manager said if he didnt get him the money now, he wouldnt of got it at all, cause he was so out of control
     
  4. JohnThomas1

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    I've always thought Mike Trainer played a prominent role too.
     
  5. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    It was mostly all Trainer.
     
  6. META5

    META5 Active Member Full Member

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    I await the decibels of wailing and teeth grinding about that pesky son of a gun, Leonard, not giving Duran a chance to come into the fight in peak shape and how he had to use this advantage to get the win.

    It will be beautiful music to the boxing ears, because how quickly these people forget that Duran did the exact same thing to DeJesus, unless I'm mistaken ...
     
  7. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    You're not. Benitez snr even asked to put the fight back a month but was turned down flat. Hey, Duran was the champ he calls the shots....just like in 1980. :huh
     
  8. META5

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    So, basically, it's alright when Duran does it cos he's Roberto Duran, a living legend, but when it's done to Duran, it's a heinous crime and bad sportsmanship, fraudulent, dishonest and cowardly? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ... I now see how this equal playing field thing works. :good
     
  9. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Yeah, i know :D
     
  10. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Exactly, check, and mate!
     
  11. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Good to be around peeps telling it like it is :yep
     
  12. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :D
     
  13. Sonny's jab

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    Good find.
    Dave Anderson wrote a very reasonable article there. It's hard to argue with the sheer reasonableness of it.
     
  14. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    The opinions of:
    Eleta + Henriquez + Arcel + Brown = No stomach cramps. Let that be the end of all the commotion. :good
     
  15. Sonny's jab

    Sonny's jab Guest

    Does Roberto Duran not deserve the benefit of the doubt ?