Les Darcy vs Carlos Monzon

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by SuzieQ49, Aug 28, 2015.


  1. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No i attacked you and you went for the gutter by saying something disgusting about the late Winnie O'Sullivan. I hope you have to face Darcy in the afterlife and take a beating.
     
  2. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Darcy never drank at all, for some reason our very greatest athletes and sportsmen like Bradman never partook in a drink, well maybe that explains why they were so good, some waited until retirement to have a drink but as an athlete drinking cannot have benefits. We had greats that drank but never in the class of a Bradman... to be honest, as great as Darcy is he is no Bradman but he is either our best ever boxer or Griffo is. Bradman is a byword for unrivalled greatest ever with no debate at all, as no one even comes near him, I doubt any boxer ever is a Bradman.
     
  3. janitor

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    That would be the least of his worries Dempsey after him!
     
  4. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh yeah I forgot, he may end up in a room cornered by Dempsey, Darcy, Jeanette and Carpentier. hell he doesn't stand a chance does he
     
  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Enlighten me on Bradman please.
    I don't know who that is.
     
  6. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  7. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Fitzsimmons is probably our greatest ever (if you consider that he qualifies). Like Bradman, (though obviously not to the same extent) he did things that no other fighter has ever replicated still. Such as being to only fighter below 170 (or 175 for that matter, if you dont consider Tommy Burns lineal) to ever win an undisputed world title fight!
     
  8. Rafaman

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    Sir Donald Bradman is Australia's greatest cricketer. He had a career average of 100 runs a match. That would be like Michael Jordan averaging 60 points a game every game. Elite of the elite and most likely an unbreakable record.
     
  9. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Best not mention Bodyline or Jardine then...
     
  10. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Thanks ALFrancis and Rafaman
     
  11. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good
     
  12. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bradman was a freak, he is the greatest cricketer that ever lived, so good at batting that he is first and the gap between him and second place is vast, he is almost twice as good as any other cricketer to play the game and universally recognised as such, most sports don't have a Bradman...... his name was Donald Bradman, a quietly spoken man but thunder with a bat in his hand, on a trip to the United States he met babe Ruth and Don was invited to have a bat against the pitchers in Ruth's team... Bradman just swatted those ***** out of the ground just like Babe Ruth did yet he was not a baseball player, doubt he had ever played a single game, Don was just a natural genius, if a ball came at him he would smash it away. He was so uncanny that no matter what the bowling or field placements were he would rarely ever hit the ball where a fieldsman was, always smack bang between them. His batting average was 99.94 meaning that on average he would score virtually a hundred runs every time he batted, of course he didn't do that in reality because one hundred runs is not the limit, he made 334 in 1930 as well as two scores over 200... he made 304, 299 and more 200's than 100's in his career. Now to make 300 runs usually takes a batsman 2 whole days or at least 10 hours of batting without getting out.... Bradman when he scored that 334 did that in just a single day, he utterly destroyed England and every other nation he played against, his career stretched 20 years and he was the best in the world for every one of those years..... Other sports have had a Bradman.... Billiards had Walter Lindrum who dominated billiards to the extent Bradman did but to find other sports ? maybe Heather MacKay from squash was but she didn't play in a sport with such depth of talent as she did. Bradman would if he played today be even better than he was back in the 20's to the 40's as conditions are a lot easier for batsmen these days...... there were quite a few all time greats that he did play against, maybe more and better than today.
     
  13. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, please do ? but explain that it is totally impossible for batsmen to be even half as good as they really are when bodyline tactics which have been illegal ever since Jardine used them in 1932. Bodyline was cheating and the authorities and players all knew it... but go ahead and talk about it..... Bradman averaged well over 50 in that series which id good since less than ten Australian batsmen have ever averaged over their entire careers.... to average 50 is the sign of greatness in our game. Steve Waugh, Greg Chappell, Steve Smith so far, Allan Border, Ricky Ponting , Matthew Hayden to name some of them are all time greats, brilliant players all averaging over 50 but all under 60 yet Bradman stands there alone with 99.94

     
  14. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you were half the historian and expert on boxers of the era you purport to be then you'd know that Darcy wasn't avoiding conscription because it never actually existed in Australia at that time.

    Conscription was never introduced in Australia in the First World War being put to a national referendum twice in 1916 and 1917 and being voted down twice.

    He did travel overseas without a passport which were being denied to all men of enlistment age of that time which is why the allegations of desertion sprung from. That said the US press labelling him a slacker is pretty ironic considering the USA's reluctance to engage in WW1 instead staying neutral and choosing to profiteer from the demands for machinery and armaments by the allied armies whilst small countries such as Australia were losing a large part of a generation of men in their hundreds of thousands for a European conflict that didn't really concern Australia one little bit.
     
  15. mcvey

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    You are an excellent debater, you don't need to demean yourself with lines like that and talking giving blow jobs to Darcy look-alikes which you posted earlier.
    Stick to arguing your points from the wealth of knowledge you have of the era.