I am a little confused.Are there people who actually thought that Michaels or Ellis could have beaten Jeff Fenech?Because from what I've seen of Ellis and Michael is that they weren't even close to Fenech's level.
however, if they were to fight now, barry would win....barry chin is much stronger now, after years of carrying mundines nuts on it...
Hello to all... I have just joined this site, mainly to state my opinion regarding the contentious views of Fenech/Ellis/Michael. Its a given that Fenech is, at this point in time Australias most successful boxer... we all know his acheivemnets.... yet, i will state clearly that Im disturbed by the camparisons and doubt very much that Fenech would have kept Barry Michael or Lester Ellis in trouble for an extended period... suffice to say, Michael would have put Fenech thru hell, physically and mentally... never underestaimate the strenght of Barry.. His head would have turned Fenechs feeble hands to jelly... and Fenech was not a worthy puncher, with the ability to drop Maichael... Barry was never dropped.. and fought the hardest punchers in his divisions.. As for Ellis, he would have ended the fight within 8 rounds with superior skills, strength and power... please remember that Fenech never handled an orthodox puncher very well..and was susceptable to brawling to keep momentum in his favour... I have total respect for all 3 of these great fighters.. yet, i have my over the years, witnessed all 3 in action against different fighters..and still suggest Fenech was inferior to both Ellis and Michael... although the match ups would have been a pleasure to witness, Regarding the proposed Michael/Ellis rematch.. many might consider it a joke, but Im more fearful for the safety of both fighters, as they are in a postion to do more serious damage to one another, than Fenech could possibly do to either of them currently... Its mentioned that fenech may fightthe winner of this 'bout'... but, rest assured, if Barry and Lester put on an impressive fight, having showed a degree of fitness, durability and worthy ring craft, then Fenech will walk away with his tail between his legs.... just as he did in Jack Rennies gym after sparring Lester, and Barrys age will be the excuse that Fenech wont fight him..... Lets wait and see...
Good comment, I agree Michael to big , to strong, to tuff, would of broke fenech down. Lester not sure, depends on where he was, at his best could of given Fenechs chin a huge test and would of matched him in ferocitiy in power, however if he was not firing he would of got TKO'd
Micheal would have been a hard nut to crack, he was tough as hell and superfeather was his weight. Well actually lightweight was more his weight but when he struggled down he was obviously a monster at superfeather. Thats the main issue here, it could be like the Cotto-Magarito fight where the bigger, harder man just wears the other one down, regardless of how much skill he has. P4P there is no contest, Fenech was clearly better but if he fought Barry at superfeather it would have been a hard night for him. I cant however in good conscience pick against a man who fought so many good fighters, HOFs, p4p fighters and won a title in his 7th pro fight. Mr Sweetenham just could not match that experience, nor even get close to it.
Whatarock... i enjoyed reading your response, and appreciate the diplomatic view you offer... i can see your point of view...as the p4p situation is the main drama in comparing fighters thru the ages... thus, the contentious opinions that have, and will continue to prevail enduringly..... the opinions that are put on offer, are always to be subjected to ridicule or agreement... thats the whole reason for such forums... and that, in itself is what really is the enjoyable part of having an opinion... I still mantain that barry was a much stronger man.... yet, sadly, we didnt get the oportunity of seeing Barry and Fenech fight at the same weight in a contest together...whilst in their peaks.... C`est la vie... keep punchin mate.
Well Kostya was a natural 140 pounder....i dont think Fenech was ever close to that during his prime.:deal
Fantastic... the responses are exactly whats needed to keep comments tooing and froing..... Kostya was far superior to all 3.... technically and methodically. None of the 3 great fighters would have been in the same pool at any stage of their careers...even when considering the p4p perspective....yet, once again, im simply offering my own opiion. Regarding Barry and Azumah, i honestly feel the match us would have been very similar to Michael/Carter, yet, Nelson was a far superior fighter to Al Carter, even without the punching power.... Nelson was a better fighter.... a points victory would have been assured.. ... I believe. Out of the blue, has anyone ever considered the probability of Danny Green/Dennis Andries??? both walk up fighters, with intense ambitions..... just a thought.. keep punchin.
Funny you should say that flam, I was just thinking of this the other day. Because though I think Danny Green was a better boxer than Jeff Harding, I always picture Andries-Harding 1 when matching Harding and Green in a mythical matchup. I think Danny would pile on the pressure early and have a handy lead by the mid-rounds. But I could not get the scenario out of my head where Harding's late stoppage was a foregone conclusion even after Green dominating early. As for Green vs Andries..Well I dont know if Im really qualified to say because I just havent seen enough of Andries. Something I have to remedy because Hearns is one of my all time favs and I have never seen their fight. It had occured to me why thinking about Green-Harding, that Andries-Green would be very interesting. Drawing on my justifications for the Harding fight I think Danny's issues later in fights and his almost trademark defensive lapses would come into play in this fight aswell. Danny never fought a puncher like Andries but was hurt several times in his career, even though it might not be glaringly clear to all.