Let's assess the BREWSTER situation

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  1. Suge Green

    Suge Green Boxing Junkie banned

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    WLAD did a great job of doing everything he should have...now that that's out of the way...

    WTF happened to Brew...???

    Personally I'm leaning toward the eye injury. I'm not claiming the actual state of his eye was questionable, but rather that the injury changed him. After experiencing that serious injury, Lamon realized he's human and could lose his health and livelihood. These concerns outweigh his will to win, at this point in time...by far. When a fighter who is all dog, loses the dog...he's done. He may have the same chin and skill set, but without his heart...he is in no way the same fighter.
     
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    Um no he was banking on Wlad gassing again and when it didnt happen he threw in the towel both metally and physically.
     
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    He didn't look like he came to fight yesterday. However....there seems to be a pattern here lately. Many of the fighters who fight Wlad look fine both before and after their fights with him. They don't seem ready to fight when they get in the ring with Wlad though. I am beginning to think it's him making them wary than anything wrong with the fighters. Lets see if Brewster looks good in his next fight.
     
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    It's funny that so many people are seemingly ignoring that Wlad was just as if not more dominant in their first fight through 4 rounds before coming unglued
    in the 5th

    This fight played out the same way the other would have if Wlad hadn't frozen up/gassed out/panicked or whatever happened in there. You could tell in the 4th round of their first fight that Wlad was exhausted when he attempted to finish Brewster off after the knockdown in the 4th. This time he didn't get tired and actually seemed to be getting stronger as the fight went on. That was the only real difference
     
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    I'm not saying Wlad fought the exact same way. I'm saying he was winning the first fight just as easily through 4 rounds as he was winning this fight through 4 rounds

    He made Brewster look like an amateur for 4 rounds in the first fight and got gassed out and stopped in the 5th

    He made Brewster look like an amateur for 4 rounds in the second fight, but didn't get tired and continued to make Brewster look like an amateur and Brewster's corner threw in the towel

    Yes he altered his strategy but the results, through 4 rounds, were roughly the same
     
  6. Suge Green

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    That's all great Mr. stealth...no need to state the obvious. This thread is more about looking into the condition of Brewster...we all understand that WLAD is the better boxer.

    Do you think Brewster acted determined...??? For a contrast look at that tweaker Darchinian, even after being knocked senseless you can tell he still had a desire to hurt Donaire, regardless of how improbable it may have been at the time. Brewster seemed just as defeated before during and after the fight...:smoke
     
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    it is to my beleif that the only reason this fight even took place is becuase of the eye injury Wlad would have not taken the fight if Lamon had a both eyes thats for sure, which makes one wonder why was the fight in Germany anyways? is this because in America perhaps Lamon would not have been cleared to fight.... Hmmmm
     
  8. Shotgun

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    $$$$

    That and Wlad is the champ, he can fight wherever he wants. Since Wlad is his own promoter it makes sense that he would stage his fights where he'll make the most money
     
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    The same kind of money is here in the states for Wlad I dont buy that one.
     
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    Do you think Brewster acted determined...??? For a contrast look at that tweaker Darchinian, even after being knocked senseless you can tell he still had a desire to hurt Donaire, regardless of how improbable it may have been at the time. Brewster seemed just as defeated before during and after the fight...:smoke[/quote]

    Even after the first or second round you could see all the discouragement in the world on Brew's face. He did not have the " eye of the tiger". :good
     
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    Where is he going to sell out an 18,000 person arena fighting against Lamon Brewster in the US?

    Don't forget that German TV money is huge for him. This is something American fans routinely ignore, but Wlad probably makes as much if not more money from German TV rights as he does with his HBO contract. He can fight in Germany and have the fight broadcast live in both Germany and on HBO in the US

    If he fights in the US, people have to stay up until like 3:00 AM to watch it live, meaning less advertising $$$ and less fees put up for the rights on German TV. Fighting in Germany = bigger live gate, more money from German TV/advertisers, just as much money from HBO. As a promoter it's the smart move to make

    Finally, why shouldn't he fight in Germany? He's the champ, the German fans appreciate him more than American fans, Germany's his adopted home country. He can fight wherever he wants to
     
  12. Jose FM

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    I dont think we should make excuses for Brewster, cause if we are talking excuses then Wlad broke his left hand and still was whippin ass no excuses. Wlad was just too good to get beat by anyone, his jab was in Brewster face all night long, was throwing rights, hooks, and even uppercuts, masterful preformance for Klitschko.
     
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    Ridiculuos, a doctor is a doctor, Germany is not a third world country, as a matter of fact Germany probablky has a better health care system than the U.S. Brewster was fine, Wlad just beat him fair and square.
     
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  15. dragosuhail

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    i agree suge... brewster didn't look as determined this time round. but i STRONGLY believe the reason for this is none other that WLAD.

    what i mean is lamon absorbed the worst hiding of his career in those four rounds of first fight. yes i realise he won, but lamon isn't stupid. he was in the ring taking those shots so knows more than anyone how much hell he had to go through. and he must have had a sliver of doubt in how convincing his ko of wlad was. just a little doubt but that's enough to open the crack wider when the rematch came.

    i really feel waldimir pounded him worse then the guys after that fight did. lamon at least knew watching those tapes that he won them or just won them in the case of meehan. but against an improved wladimir? i feel the ghost of doubt and the memory of the pain he went through to win in an unsatisfying why, has made him less "relentless" in their rematch!

    that's my two cents but i feel it's probably closest to the reality. novrasputin i know your guy is sultan, but try not to be tooo negative to wladimir. i mean i believe he will kick sultan's arse pretty bad if they fought based on performances etc. so you better start being more objective NOW, to avoid the embarrassment later ;)