Lets be honest about Roy Jones

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Anglosaxon, Oct 21, 2008.


  1. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    jones could'nt even draw a crowd while buying milk, never mind being america's golden boy.
     
  2. vonBanditos

    vonBanditos M΃derator Full Member

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    You're just not being serious. Jones is shot and he looked horrible against Tito. Trinidad offered no resistance. This incredible 'motivation' has been brought out before every fight since his loss to Tarver and it has never translated into the ring.
     
  3. THE BLADE

    THE BLADE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    First of all, Hopkins - Calzaghe was a close fight. I scored it for Hopkins by about a point.

    Jones is still a good opponent but he is not the great Jones of 10 years ago who beat Hill,Toney and Griffin. Jones is still world class but he is not great anymore.
     
  4. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Total rubbish. So are we to assume you're picking Jones?

    Jones is NOT still a great fighter, that is total rubbish. He's 3-3 in last 6 fights getting knocked out in 2 of them. His high point in his last 6 fights was against an overblown welterweight out of the ring for nearly 3 years and with 2-3 record in his last seven years in the ring.

    Yeah he was a great fighter at one stage of his career but the heyday of his career was years ago. Any fool can see that Jones is a shadow of his former greatness.

    This is a sad con job cashing in on the faded memory of a once great fighter. A meaningless fight.
     
  5. riggers

    riggers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    RJJ is a proven drug cheat and that casts a long shadow over his accomplishments
     
  6. riggers

    riggers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    JOe can't pull a crowd ? 55000 is not a crowd ?
     
  7. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ummm...If you think RJJ is the same fighter he was, you never actually saw the real RJJ fight...

    As for Calzaghe "dismantling" Hopkins, he was lucky to squeak out a victory.

    Jones and Calzaghe are not "equal" in terms of decline. RJJ had a level of athleticism and reflexes that probably have never been seen in boxing. His decline has been massive. The fact that he still is a good fighter is proof as to how great he once was.
     
  8. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good post.

    One thing to add...

    Calzaghe fans get pissed at the argument "If RJJ wins, then a shot RJJ beat Calzaghe, but if Calzaghe wins, then Calzaghe only beat a shot RJJ."

    Here's the problem with that argument: CALZAGHE CHOSE TO WAIT UNTIL NOW TO ACTUALLY FIGHT A FEW BIG NAMES.

    He spent 10 of his supposed best years fighting in obscurity, not seeking out these fights.

    That's the risk with fighting "shot" or "over the hill" legends... You won't get the credit, because you're just fighting a name and a puncher's chance...
     
  9. riggers

    riggers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jones had a drug enhanced " FACT " level of athleticism not seen in sport since Ben Johnson at his peak
     
  10. riggers

    riggers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh yeah and Hopkins and RJJ did not want anything to do with Joe
     
  11. Scar

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    That's the risk Joe is taking here, this fight is a big money fight for Joe as far as he's concerned, he knows that he won't get much credit for beating Jones and knows that if he wins then he won't get any credit either. Calzaghe might be on the decline but he's nothing close to Jones there, Jones has been on the decline since his first fight with Tarver and that's 5 years ago, he's only far worse now to be honest. Even Calzaghe his self admitted that this fight would be pointless before his fight with Hopkins and might not take it, now that the offer was made and it was big he took it and I can't blame him, the man wants to make some money like everyone else, he earned this spot. To say he gets full credit I really doubt it, Jones is more shot than he is, at least Calzaghe recently beat Hopkins. Jones didn't look good against Trinidad.
     
  12. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    If he's a proven drug cheat then why is his record clean?, shouldn't he have two no contests like James Toney had?

    If that's true then his entire record should be deleted by now, according to you. :lol:
     
  13. Undisputed P4P

    Undisputed P4P esb FBL & FIFA 12 champ Full Member

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    lets get one thing straight cotto will become twice the fighter calzaghe was.

    the greatest asset that roy jones had in his prime was his reflexes, add that to his speed, and the power which he showed when he needed to, the man was untouchable, the roy jones of today is half the fighter he was, and you are only trying to say roy is a great fighter so if clazaghe wins you will talk about him being the greatest of this generation when really he doesn't deseverve to be mentioned in the same sentence as the likes Whitaker and RJJ.
     
  14. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    If Cotto stays away from dangerous fighters, I am sure he can get his career back ontrack, he better forget about Mayweather though.

    This is tedious, everyone knows peopel ducked Calzaghe, and everyone knows Jones was basking in his purple patch beating some good fighters, but like Pavlik, once he was humiliated, the dream was over.

    People say Pavlik isn't a bad fighter, a half fit Jones now would destroy Pavlik.
     
  15. Undisputed P4P

    Undisputed P4P esb FBL & FIFA 12 champ Full Member

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    this post just shows how very little you know about boxing, there is no way roy jones would be able to have the intelligence and ring craft to avoid a kelly pavlik right hand. and once landed roy jones chin won't be able to handle the power. roy jones and bernard hopkins are two totally different types of fighters.