Lets be honest. Muhammad Ali is good, but not that great...

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  1. daniel263

    daniel263 New Member booted Full Member

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    Nearly everyone who says Ali is the GOAT is usually a clueless casual who is just saying it because thats what the media portrays him as.

    the truth is, people overhyped him because of the good he does for his people and his political impact. His death also made his legacy much better, similar to when 2pac died.

    He has 5 losses. Many boxers hit way harder than him. He only did good because he was tall and had good reach.

    He is a good boxer, but not an elite like Mayweather, Oscar, even Tyson
     
  2. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 Active Member Full Member

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    Ali a good fighter? Without him we'd never have heard of Frazier, Foreman, Shavers, Norton, Holmes, etc.
     
  3. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Active Member Full Member

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    Now now he's still up there as one of the best ever don't get it twisted. He was very good, my main gripe with him is he never threw body shots and he never adapted to Ken Norton despite it being advertised that he overcame him, just robbed him. Ali was indeed overhyped because he was a Liberal media icon being a proud black Muslim who railed against the white man. Still treated Joe Frazier like **** calling him an uncle Tom and race traitor which I can't abide by. I think he's a very clear case of narcissistic personality disorder, a charming one too, so many fools bought into his shtick as they were too ignorant to see how odious his bravado was.
     
  4. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Active Member Full Member

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    What? No, these men all made names for themselves outside of Ali's contributions to their careers. Don't be silly now.
     
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  5. daniel263

    daniel263 New Member booted Full Member

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    overrated bums
     
  6. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is this thread from an alternate universe?
     
  7. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 Active Member Full Member

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    There is no Foreman, Frazier, Holmes and Norton without Ali.
     
  8. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    He's definitely great, but overrated as well. Both in and out of the ring. Gets a pass on too many things.
     
  9. PolicemanPrawn

    PolicemanPrawn Member Full Member

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    He deserves to go down as an ATG but he wouldn't match up too favourably head-to-head against the likes of Tyson, Lewis, Wlad, Vitali, Fury.
     
  10. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Active Member Full Member

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    Total nonsense considering Frazier was champ without Ali, as was foreman and Norton also made a name for himself outside of Ali although he had profited the most legacy wise from him because Ali never truly beat him.
     
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  11. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    I think he ****s up wlad and fury
     
  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Foot Fetish Enthusiast. Nuff Said. Full Member

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    Lmao calling others casuals for calling Ali the Goat, because he has 5 losses then comparing Ali to Tyson and Del a Hoya, who both have more losses...
     
  13. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Lol i know
     
  14. daniel263

    daniel263 New Member booted Full Member

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    Tyson has more losses because he is an aggressive fighter. Tyson is also 5'10 which is a severe disadvantage.
    De La hoya is champ in 6 divisions
     
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  15. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Hey Fatty Boom Boom Full Member

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    Is this another ALT from notjustacasual?

    Bonkers thread
     
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