Lets be honest.. Victor Ortiz needed to KO floyd to get a SD!

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  1. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What round did you give Ortrees?
     
  2. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    round 2.. He also had some good moments in round 4 but he would of lost that round as well.
     
  3. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hmmm ok...So i have two question for you..

    the first:

    Why do you think Money sucker punch (yes everyone it was a sucker punch) Ortrees?
     
  4. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Obviously because of the Head butt... Why did ortiz get upset in the first place? hmmm would it be due to those elbows?? :deal
     
  5. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ok..so he headbutted Floyd because of the "elbows"...so basically Money started this whole fiasco with his use of "elbows"...gotcha

    Ok my second questions...

    let just say that this was a only a four round fight, at the end of the fourth round (let pretend that there was NO headbutt) who would have awarded the fight too?
     
  6. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Floyd would of been up on the cards... 3 rounds to 1! Whats your point? It was a competitive fight and it was scheduled for 12 rounds. No one knows what would have happend! Victor was fighting smart and he was saving his energy for the late rounds. I have no ****ing doubt in my mind that it would have been a great fight! :deal
     
  7. uranage

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    Ok so you would have gave the fight to Money...you said that Ortrees was saving his energy..

    Does he have a history of tiring? and also were you able to get a sense of what Ortrees gameplan for this fight was?
     
  8. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    His gameplan was to pick his spots and attack floyd against the ropes.. It was clear as day. Sure in the middle of the ring floyd had the advantage but when floyd was on the ropes he was getting roughed up and man handled!
     
  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I had Ortiz up 4-0 up until the knockdown, in which I then had to D/Q Floyd.

    Good win, Ortiz.
     
  10. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pick his shot...ok. Let touch on the rope thing for a minute, When Ortrees would get Money on the ropes he would connect with maybe 2 punches, the rest of the Money would roll with the punches.

    Now I'm not saying that he couldn't hit Money when he was on the ropes ( he did) but Money philly shell defense and rolling with the punches was taking some of the stream off of Ortrees attack.

    Now I notice also that Money was catching Ortrees with a couple of check hooks when he charged him in (one of the hook was off of a jab) order to pin Money against the ropes.

    So my question to you is this, let say by the middle rounds (maybe 7 or 8 ) Ortrees rope attach wasn't working, what do you think Ortrees would have done?

    Do you think he would have adjusted?
     
  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Haha..Ortrees..I get it.
     
  12. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    :lol::rofl
     
  13. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yes, yes...it was quite funny...now to reiterate...

    Pick his shot...ok. Let touch on the rope thing for a minute, When Ortrees would get Money on the ropes he would connect with maybe 2 punches, the rest of the Money would roll with the punches.

    Now I'm not saying that he couldn't hit Money when he was on the ropes ( he did) but Money philly shell defense and rolling with the punches was taking some of the stream off of Ortrees attack.

    Now I notice also that Money was catching Ortrees with a couple of check hooks when he charged him in (one of the hook was off of a jab) order to pin Money against the ropes.

    So my question to you is this, let say by the middle rounds (maybe 7 or 8 ) Ortrees rope attach wasn't working, what do you think Ortrees would have done?

    Do you think he would have adjusted?
     
  14. Above Deck

    Above Deck Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The way the fight was going, Mayweather could've broke both hands
    if it continued - he was smacking Ortiz mug around the ring with some
    good shots.

    Ortiz didn't belong in there, plain and simple.
    He got a pay day without losing his fans, that's a win win.
    If the fight had've continued, I think Ortiz would've quit.
    I can only go off previous form - and possibly the illegal butt
    was his way of quitting.