Lets be honest Ward would make Usyk and Briedis look like bums

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  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    And Oleksander Usyk lost to Shawn Porter in the amateurs.

    Amateur boxing means nothing when discussing professional boxing.
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah, Chambers was lying.

    I'm not a Wilder hater, so you won't get any argument from me there, it was a decent win for another massive Super Heavyweight. But why are you trying to denigrate Usyk's win over Mchunu, who dominated a far more game version of Chambers than Washington did. Also, how is that pertinent to the conversation, Wilder would tear Ward's head clean off. I doubt anyone would argue any different.
     
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  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Shane Mosley was 42 against Mundine. Eddie was 31. You didn't have to believe Chambers , his physical appearance speaked for itself.
    Two totally different situations anyway. Mosely was a shot fighter at 39 when he fought Pacquaio.
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I'll deal with this utterly maddeningly frustrating nonsensical post later, after I get some rest, I've been up for like 20 hours. But my breakdown will be brutally thorough as to why this is bat**** insane..
     
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  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    B, b, but Shane said he was in the best shape of his life!
     
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  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I never said that.
     
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  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    You sure seemed to take Eddie's word for it.

    You even cited it in a debate.
     
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  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Im not trying to denigrate Usyk's win over Mchunu , you misunderstood why i made that post to ItsOva.
     
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  9. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I never said anything about Shane Mosley, you did.
     
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  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    So your logic only applies when it suites previous things you have said?

    And it doesn't apply when it goes against your argument?

    [Ed Sullivan voice] "Ladies and gentleman... the agenda!"
     
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  11. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ...that miracle would be called Weekes...
     
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  12. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Mchunu isn't a total scrub but CW is definitely one of the most overrated divisions on here. These guys will get smoked when they move up to HW.
     
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  13. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Ward would need a miracle to beat... Breidis?

    Breidis has some size on Ward but the gulf in skill level is too much for it to matter. Breidis gets schooled. Usyk is a tougher night but still have to favor Ward. Usyk relies on workrate and size, Ward is way more skilled I see him beating Usyk up on the inside.
     
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  14. heizenberg

    heizenberg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I disagree I think both would be a tough fight for Ward. Usyk height and workrate he would be able to use against Ward. Bredis is very strong and would be tough for Ward to keep off of him.
     
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  15. Payback87

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    Dream on.Ward wouldnt even beat top 3 fighters at 175 without gift on the cards and american referee allowing him to cheat.

    Lost 8-4 vs Kovalev in the first fight + knock down and was allowed to cheat in the second fight as well.He cant beat top 10 fighter at CW.
     
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